Return of CIPHER!

#42
QFIT said:
Well, the "real" numbers can be found at Alexa:

BJInfo traffic rank: 82,841
cipherblackjack: 4,860,678 (first time I've seen a traffic rank this low.)

BJInfo reach: 17.5 out of 1,000,000 users
cipherbj reach: 0.05 out of 1,000,000 users

Or at Trafficestimate.com:

bjinfo: 120,700 visits in last 30 days
cipherbj: Too low to estimate

Or Google position for the word Blackjack:

bjinfo: Position 1
cipherbj: Not in the first 804 which is as far as Google displayed.
I was just a lucky guess! zg
 
#43
QFIT said:
Well, the "real" numbers can be found at Alexa:

BJInfo traffic rank: 82,841
cipherblackjack: 4,860,678 (first time I've seen a traffic rank this low.)

BJInfo reach: 17.5 out of 1,000,000 users
cipherbj reach: 0.05 out of 1,000,000 users

Or at Trafficestimate.com:

bjinfo: 120,700 visits in last 30 days
cipherbj: Too low to estimate

Or Google position for the word Blackjack:

bjinfo: Position 1
cipherbj: Not in the first 804 which is as far as Google displayed.

All of which means nothing
And here we have another SENIOR MEMBER of BLACKJACK INFO.COM with you guessed it!!! a couple hundred posts to his credit. Gee tell me why is that when I type in the word Blackjack into GOOGLE (and surely you've heard of Google right) I don't see anything for BLACKJACKINFO.COM. Now I didn't go through all the Google pages but I figured with a whooping 120,700 visits in the last 30 days they would certainly show up somewhere near the top right?

Care to explain QFIT?

Maybe the 120,700 visits is the number of visits Ken Smith tried to tell someone he was trying to sell the sit to. Now that I can believe.

Cipher
 
#44
Actually, I rather prefer the Federal Probation Report. It's a pretty interesting read. It's amazing what you can find in the public domain, heh?

Cipher
 

LeonShuffle

Well-Known Member
#45
As QFIT pointed out, and I just verified for myself, type "blackjack" into Google and "Blackjackinfo.com" is the FIRST one. And what difference does it make how many posts it takes to become a senior member? It doesn't mean anything anyway.
 

dacium

Well-Known Member
#46
I would like to challenge you cipher. I will provide any number of hands/cards (billions if you like) from my casino software and then you can 'cipher' it (to predict a win/looss). If you can get a profit i will pay you $10,000 for your system.
 
#48
QFIT said:
Well, the "real" numbers can be found at Alexa:

BJInfo traffic rank: 82,841
cipherblackjack: 4,860,678 (first time I've seen a traffic rank this low.)

BJInfo reach: 17.5 out of 1,000,000 users
cipherbj reach: 0.05 out of 1,000,000 users

Or at Trafficestimate.com:

bjinfo: 120,700 visits in last 30 days
cipherbj: Too low to estimate

Or Google position for the word Blackjack:

bjinfo: Position 1
cipherbj: Not in the first 804 which is as far as Google displayed.
Now I know why he's back - he's lonely. zg
 
#49
Sonny said:
Here's what my neighbor's 6 year old son came up with. It's not as pretty as your software but it's just as helpful and it only costs 25 cents!
The kid shows promise - he's alreay created the cipherJR system. zg
 

QFIT

Well-Known Member
#50
CIPHER said:
And here we have another SENIOR MEMBER of BLACKJACK INFO.COM with you guessed it!!! a couple hundred posts to his credit. Gee tell me why is that when I type in the word Blackjack into GOOGLE (and surely you've heard of Google right) I don't see anything for BLACKJACKINFO.COM. Now I didn't go through all the Google pages but I figured with a whooping 120,700 visits in the last 30 days they would certainly show up somewhere near the top right?

Care to explain QFIT?

The "top right" is paid for ads (Google adwords.) Bjinfo is #1 in the natural search. Didn't you see the words "Sponsored Links?" Are you trying to fool people with yet more trickery?
 
#51
zengrifter said:
Provide us a link. Here/now. zg
Oh, I'm sure you would be. By the way did anyone ever tell you that having a criminal record expunged only works maybe half of the time. You know the old sh#!, in sh#! out routine.

Cipher
 
#52
CIPHER said:
Oh, I'm sure you would be. By the way did anyone ever tell you that having a criminal record expunged only works maybe half of the time. You know the old sh#!, in sh#! out routine.
I'm not interested in being expunged - I expect a presidential pardon. z:joker:g
 
#53
zengrifter said:
I'm not interested in being expunged - I expect a presidential pardon. z:joker:g
Well it's a shame your buddy Bill Clinton isn't in office any longer, as maybe then the real Marcus K. Dalton might have stood an outside chance at a pardon then, but that's rather doubtful given the little cabal that you had going on with the U.S. Attorneys office in West Virginia.

Cipher
 

adt_33

Active Member
#54
zengrifter said:
(this image is just great)

I can understand neither CIPHER's system nor the arguments against it, but when CIPHER again resorts to avoiding the issue by calling out Zg on a wholly unrelated issue--- well then call me a sheep, but I'm going with the crowd on this one.
 
#55
adt_33 said:
(this image is just great)

I can understand neither CIPHER's system nor the arguments against it, but when CIPHER again resorts to avoiding the issue by calling out Zg on a wholly unrelated issue--- well then call me a sheep, but I'm going with the crowd on this one.
That's probably a great choice for you adt.

Added at 8:31 PST

Ya know ADT I knew that I recognized that image you spoke of from somewhere. And then it dawned on me that the image that you mentioned was a half tone clipart image and there's only one place that I can think of that uses half tone clipart images anymore and that's newspapers. So I did a search and bigger than Dallas I came across this article from the Las Vegas Tribune on guess who? Now I don't know for sure but I'm wondering if this isn't the one in the same MARCUS K. DALTON aka the ZENGRIFTER and to top it off it was just a year ago.

Yep, that's probably a great choice you made there ADT.

Cipher
 

dacium

Well-Known Member
#56
The Cypher system appears to just show the past results and it is up to the user to perform 'trend analysis' so that the user makes the correct next move. There are several things wrong with its approach.

It assumes that a hand is in some way related to another hand in a session.

It assumes that the RNG sequence is set for the session and goes only to the session.

There is no reason to believe that this is able to estimate when a winning hand will occur.
 

dacium

Well-Known Member
#57
I had quite a look at this because of the number of winning sessions. But it is pretty easy to show that it doesnt work when I had a look at the results.

Each session is 30 hands. Unless he is still loosing. He will then continue until he is in profit. In one session he is down $1k and double splits two ten's to win $1500 on the hand and end the sessions with a small profit. He explains that he anaylised it write and did it when the software said green etc. etc. A number of times he gets a double down with a $500 bet out and this is pretty much the only reason the session ends up a winning session.

He spread $1 to $500 which gives the impression that a $500 win is signficnant.
His average session so far is a win of $570, barely over 1 max unit. All up for the 18 sessions he has posted he makes

These are the best he makes:
Amount Times Profit/loss:
$1 288x $-7.5
$30 38x $-330
$60 3x $180
$90 112x $45
$240 58x $720
$500 58x $9750

So basically so far he has not no better than a random +10 units flat betting session since he is only about +10 units on $500 bets. If he maintains +10 units per 60 bets for say 500 bets I will believe him but its way to small to tell yet.
 
#58
dacium said:
I had quite a look at this because of the number of winning sessions. But it is pretty easy to show that it doesnt work when I had a look at the results.

Each session is 30 hands. Unless he is still loosing. He will then continue until he is in profit. In one session he is down $1k and double splits two ten's to win $1500 on the hand and end the sessions with a small profit. He explains that he anaylised it write and did it when the software said green etc. etc. A number of times he gets a double down with a $500 bet out and this is pretty much the only reason the session ends up a winning session.

He spread $1 to $500 which gives the impression that a $500 win is signficnant.
His average session so far is a win of $570, barely over 1 max unit. All up for the 18 sessions he has posted he makes

These are the best he makes:
Amount Times Profit/loss:
$1 288x $-7.5
$30 38x $-330
$60 3x $180
$90 112x $45
$240 58x $720
$500 58x $9750

So basically so far he has not no better than a random +10 units flat betting session since he is only about +10 units on $500 bets. If he maintains +10 units per 60 bets for say 500 bets I will believe him but its way to small to tell yet.
Well let's take a look at this software that you supposedly have.

I can hardly wait for this.

Cipher
 

QFIT

Well-Known Member
#60
Brutus said:
what system or software is this?
The same system is use by centuries of gamblers. Attempt to predict the future of independent trials from the past. Casinos depend on such thinking.
 
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