Rhode Island-Video Blackjack Tables?
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AM, if you do go (or anyone goes for that matter) the two 5$ min tables (on the right side if facing the casino floor (behind you would be the wall)) the one closest to you allows split 10s...the other one is set to matching tens....not sure if i should let them know this or just keep playing the one that isnt set for matching tens.....
ok....so they are 3/6 pen...damn....when you look quick at the lcd screen and don't take into consideration that it is trying to imitate the cards at an angle...damn...thought the game was better than that...
but my trips there have been
win 10 units
lose 3.9 units
win 10.1 units
win 29.2 units (had another player with me playing a 2nd hand so split 50/50, should I take more seeing how I'm banking him?)
I have spent a total of 4 hrs and 45 minutes playing there with a small spread of 1-5....what does cvcx say about this? rare as hell?
but my trips there have been
win 10 units
lose 3.9 units
win 10.1 units
win 29.2 units (had another player with me playing a 2nd hand so split 50/50, should I take more seeing how I'm banking him?)
I have spent a total of 4 hrs and 45 minutes playing there with a small spread of 1-5....what does cvcx say about this? rare as hell?
Don't go to Newport
I'm in the parking lot of the Newport Grand right now. Don't do it- 50% pen.
The game at the racetrack in Lincoln RI is playable- conditionally. There's one thing I have to check out before I declare it playable and that's if we can determine for sure where the shuffle point is.
Note to all: be careful when you give reports on pen and games on these sites. My coming out to check out a 50% game cost me $150 in EV away from my regular game plus 2 hours of driving. Not pissed at anyone and I came out here voluntarily, just double-check your observations please.
I'm in the parking lot of the Newport Grand right now. Don't do it- 50% pen.
The game at the racetrack in Lincoln RI is playable- conditionally. There's one thing I have to check out before I declare it playable and that's if we can determine for sure where the shuffle point is.
Note to all: be careful when you give reports on pen and games on these sites. My coming out to check out a 50% game cost me $150 in EV away from my regular game plus 2 hours of driving. Not pissed at anyone and I came out here voluntarily, just double-check your observations please.
I agree with AM he trys to be a good reporter for this site and help people out, but he has to get reports from other people before checking things out. Obviously had he known it was 50% pen he would not have gone. DOnt say things on this site cause you wanna just talk or seem cool like you found At****inglantis. You guys who do that cause more problems and lose people money more then you help, and even though hes not mad i am cause that happens so much. I myself have checked out things on someones say so to be punched in the brown eye upon arrival. So please stop bullshitting everyone and be sure of the things you put on here and if your not sure dont put anything at all, or at least say after your post that your making things up like a cock rag
That was on March 24th, 2009 at 09:37 PM. I confirmed it along with JohnDoe...sry that AM didn't read the correction before he hit the road. I didn't want to seem cool or what not...I was just wondering if the game could be beat...I have done fine there...but we can call that beginner's luck...
read the whole post before u flip ur lid next time please. :joker:
read the whole post before u flip ur lid next time please. :joker:
So... it's 50% pen? On a machine? I'm guessing we could get 300 hands an hour down or more with optimal betting and playing. Hell, you could go to Hi Opt2, side count aces and sevens and do whatever the hell else you want to add a little ev, seeing as you're sitting in front of a computer and you can count on your hands or whatever else you want to do.
Shoot, I did post that it was 3/6 some time ago, but I should have posted it on this thread too:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=126663
There is no heat at all, so if you want to spread 5-500, you can probably get away with it for quite a while. They appear to be completely clueless. Even still it's tough going.
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=126663
There is no heat at all, so if you want to spread 5-500, you can probably get away with it for quite a while. They appear to be completely clueless. Even still it's tough going.
You're right, I stopped reading the thread too soon. Not flipping though, totally my choice to drive out. Very bad casino, not even any VP, just a bunch of granny bashers and those silly BJ machines.
Now... the Twin River game uses a Shufflemaster BJ machine with cash-in, ticket-out, 6/2 pen, H17, LS, DOA, DAS, no resplits, and 7-card charlie.
The big problem is you can't see the shoe or discards at all. So you can't use a true counted system. However, one of the characteristics of unbalanced RC-based systems is that you don't need to see the shoe or discards and you don't even need to start at the beginning of the shoe. All you need to know is when the shoe ends and they shuffle up. You would need to use a RC system on this game, Uston SS would probably be the best one given the game rules but KO or UBZ would work too.
The question... when do they shuffle? There is a video dealer on a screen behind the panels, alternating between two girls and two guys who look like they might not like girls very much. One of the players (who gave me the feeling he knew what he was talking about) told me that when the dealer changes, it's a new shoe. I would have to verify this before I played the game. Maybe somebody here has some info or can contact Shufflemaster- I didn't do any research other than asking this guy playing when they shuffle.
Assuming this is all correct and you can determine the shuffle point, my sims tell me you can make $30-$40 per hundred hands on this game, depending on how aggressive you are. It's a $10 min so you don't want to play any -EV hands at all, and it's easy to see everyone's cards if you are sitting somewhere near the middle of the player's panel. The vouchers are the same as used in the slots so that gives you an opportunity to launder your winnings somewhat. So the game would be playable, especially if you are a local guy with a small $10-15K or so bankroll. Due to the 7-card charlie rule it wouldn't hurt to have the strategy for your 6th card handy, just print it out on a card, it's so rare you will ever have to use it.
Now... the Twin River game uses a Shufflemaster BJ machine with cash-in, ticket-out, 6/2 pen, H17, LS, DOA, DAS, no resplits, and 7-card charlie.
The big problem is you can't see the shoe or discards at all. So you can't use a true counted system. However, one of the characteristics of unbalanced RC-based systems is that you don't need to see the shoe or discards and you don't even need to start at the beginning of the shoe. All you need to know is when the shoe ends and they shuffle up. You would need to use a RC system on this game, Uston SS would probably be the best one given the game rules but KO or UBZ would work too.
The question... when do they shuffle? There is a video dealer on a screen behind the panels, alternating between two girls and two guys who look like they might not like girls very much. One of the players (who gave me the feeling he knew what he was talking about) told me that when the dealer changes, it's a new shoe. I would have to verify this before I played the game. Maybe somebody here has some info or can contact Shufflemaster- I didn't do any research other than asking this guy playing when they shuffle.
Assuming this is all correct and you can determine the shuffle point, my sims tell me you can make $30-$40 per hundred hands on this game, depending on how aggressive you are. It's a $10 min so you don't want to play any -EV hands at all, and it's easy to see everyone's cards if you are sitting somewhere near the middle of the player's panel. The vouchers are the same as used in the slots so that gives you an opportunity to launder your winnings somewhat. So the game would be playable, especially if you are a local guy with a small $10-15K or so bankroll. Due to the 7-card charlie rule it wouldn't hurt to have the strategy for your 6th card handy, just print it out on a card, it's so rare you will ever have to use it.
Obviously, I've never tried counting an empty table, but both heads up and with full tables I've gotten about 205-215 a dealer.
They may timeout on an empty table. In Laughlin, several players refused to play the school marm dealer. To my surprise, she did seem to make a number of multi-card 21s early in the shool.
They may timeout on an empty table. In Laughlin, several players refused to play the school marm dealer. To my surprise, she did seem to make a number of multi-card 21s early in the shool.
It would be pretty funny if when the machine detects counting it sends a video pit boss over to back you off.
The shuffle happening when the dealer changes is intuitive and squares with observation. I would like to see something from the manufacturer or gaming control people though, as it would be a really nasty way to fool us if the dealer changed at some constant but randomly defined point between shuffles.
The shuffle happening when the dealer changes is intuitive and squares with observation. I would like to see something from the manufacturer or gaming control people though, as it would be a really nasty way to fool us if the dealer changed at some constant but randomly defined point between shuffles.