Rhode Island-Video Blackjack Tables?
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Perhaps, but than you have to factor in your travel time, gas, tips to the valet, tips to the waitress, tips to the dealer.....
Each goes his own way, but I greatly prefer hitting Vegas every eight weeks or so and being able to use my MP magic along with much better games to grinding away against the tide in AC or Foxwoods. I've yet to hit MS and I doubt its in the near future.
Each goes his own way, but I greatly prefer hitting Vegas every eight weeks or so and being able to use my MP magic along with much better games to grinding away against the tide in AC or Foxwoods. I've yet to hit MS and I doubt its in the near future.
You can't really be saying one would make 90 cents per physical hand played with a $25 to $100 spread and never playing at less than +2? That makes absolutely no sense to me lol. What am I missing?
Maybe making $4.5 every physical hand played and you get to play 20% of all hands seen or something might make more sense to me.
Anyway, he'd make the same 90 cents per hand whether he has a $5K roll or a $100K roll. Only his risk would change.
Maybe making $4.5 every physical hand played and you get to play 20% of all hands seen or something might make more sense to me.
Anyway, he'd make the same 90 cents per hand whether he has a $5K roll or a $100K roll. Only his risk would change.
guys please find the thread i made (only other post so far) talking about a certain machine at the stratosphere in las vegas. are we talking about the same machine? and where in laughlin is a good machine? often im lucky enough in the middle of the night to get it to myself, but i seem to lose on it more than i think i would. would appreciate it if some of u experts would give me some advice. i cannot find anything on that machine suggesting when the shuffle takes place, is it really when a new dealer shows up?
What you're msising is a reality check against the percentages. A high +4 TC is still only going to leave you with an advantage of 2% (or less), so even at the max bet of $100, that's only an EV of $4 for that hand, and that's not counting lower bets made against lower advantages at lower counts of +2 and +3.
hmm i dont think im too dumb, cause while reading his post, before i read yours, i also was suggesting jumping out at 0 instead of at -1. but like him ive got a low roll, (about $3000-5000) probably even less than his. ive been told they have these machines in laughlin for $1 min instead of the $3 min at the stratosphere las vegas i spent so much time at this spring. so on my next trip, when i head back for the wsop, would i be better off heading to laughlin for a few days when i feel the need to play some BJ instead of playing at the stratosphere? i would like to have a good math person figure out my risk of ruin if i stuck to playing 5 units on all counts of +2 or more, and one unit on hands of +1, and the bare minimum on counts of 0 or less. since i like to play all 5 spots, id have to play out negative shoes if i didnt wanna quit. but i would cut back to only 1 hand during those times. all the rest of the time id be playing all 5 spots. so my actual spread would be from 1 hand of $1 to 5 hands of $5 each. and in vegas would be 1 hand of $3 to 5 hands of $15 each. very curious to find out my risk of ruin. i cant say the exact amount of my roll id have in mid june, but im guessing from $3000 to $5000 to start off.
thx to anyone for their help. and does AC have these anywhere? i could go there but unlikely.
thx to anyone for their help. and does AC have these anywhere? i could go there but unlikely.
Just a note RE: Rhode Island casinos. They're not actually casinos. All machines in RI are VLT's (video lottery terminals). There is nothing random about any of the machines, including the video blackjack (or the slots, or the video poker). No amount of skill will change your chances of winning. All hands, spins, etc. are predetermined. The payouts throughout the casino are determined by one main server ahead of time. VLT's are essentially scratch tickets. Playing the hand or spinning the reels is for entertainment purposes only. Rhode Island has no live table games, and is only licensed by the state to run a "lottery" (VLT's). Rhode Island law does not permit games of "skill", so counting the video blackjack or playing perfect strategy on a video poker machine will not change the outcome. For more info, just Google Rhode Island VLT's or video lottery terminals.
if u seriously believe this, hit 20 every time and stand everytime u have 9 10 or 11 and see if ur results overall are exactly the same as u say theyve been predetermined. lol
what ur claiming is if someone is dealt aaa 47 on a video poker machines and tosses the aaa and holds the 47 that overall they will achieve the same results as if they hold the aaa and toss the 47--because ur saying that whether he wins or loses isnt affected in any way by his skill. anyone see how what hes saying is ludicrous? dont be afraid to speak up.
what ur claiming is if someone is dealt aaa 47 on a video poker machines and tosses the aaa and holds the 47 that overall they will achieve the same results as if they hold the aaa and toss the 47--because ur saying that whether he wins or loses isnt affected in any way by his skill. anyone see how what hes saying is ludicrous? dont be afraid to speak up.
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Not the point. When you are dealt a 20 and you are determined to win, you will get an ace every time if you hit when a win was predetermined.
Rhode Island machines are not VLT's. New York machines are. In fact the machines in Lincoln are Shufflemaster machines, the game parameters are clearly marked on the outside: 6/2, H17, DAS, LS, 7 card-charlie. It would be a serious violation of law if the machines were actually VLT's, and a good AP move to play them if they were because a court would probably award you your losses back.
Rhode Island machines are not VLT's. New York machines are. In fact the machines in Lincoln are Shufflemaster machines, the game parameters are clearly marked on the outside: 6/2, H17, DAS, LS, 7 card-charlie. It would be a serious violation of law if the machines were actually VLT's, and a good AP move to play them if they were because a court would probably award you your losses back.
Twin River Video Blackjack
The Twin River web site touts Shuffle Master brand virtual blackjack, but that game was removed over a month ago. I mailed the site about this a month ago, but it's not corrected as of this writing.
What they do have is Royal Match, which is 6 decks at a 5-seat machine, and they have 6 $10 machines for a total of 30 seats. You will wait for a seat during peak times, so jumping is not always possible. I haven't counted the deal to determine the penetration. A new shoe is presented when the dealer image is changed. BJ pays 3:2, hit S17, DAS, DD any, 1 card on ace splits, surrender. Spread is $5-$250. A match the dealer side bet is offered for the mathematically challenged.
No free drinks at play in RI, but you can get soft stuff and coffee. They started tracking play within the last month, but the comps are what you would expect for a $10 game - low.
The Twin River web site touts Shuffle Master brand virtual blackjack, but that game was removed over a month ago. I mailed the site about this a month ago, but it's not corrected as of this writing.
What they do have is Royal Match, which is 6 decks at a 5-seat machine, and they have 6 $10 machines for a total of 30 seats. You will wait for a seat during peak times, so jumping is not always possible. I haven't counted the deal to determine the penetration. A new shoe is presented when the dealer image is changed. BJ pays 3:2, hit S17, DAS, DD any, 1 card on ace splits, surrender. Spread is $5-$250. A match the dealer side bet is offered for the mathematically challenged.
No free drinks at play in RI, but you can get soft stuff and coffee. They started tracking play within the last month, but the comps are what you would expect for a $10 game - low.
Found what I was looking for. If you're going to read one article, read this one. Here's an article authored by your very own knagl on the VLT's-
(Dead link: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Gambling-1414/f_4477823.htm)
(Check the part where he talks about having a winning hand, throwing it away, and getting the same hand dealt to you). As I have been saying- PREDETERMINED
(Dead link: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Gambling-1414/f_4477823.htm)
(Check the part where he talks about having a winning hand, throwing it away, and getting the same hand dealt to you). As I have been saying- PREDETERMINED