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Martin Gayle

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Ploppy groans

The worst groans always come from taking any action on an 18, either A7 or 9,9. Some dealers I have found will even skip by a soft 18 as if it is a XX.

The civilians always play bad defensive (staying on 12v2 12v3, A7, 9,9 insuring a 20 etc), and they don't seems to get flustered when you double. Maybe they are in awe of chunky green action!!!!(barf)
 
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Thunder

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#22
#22
Funny story regarding the almighty flow

I was at a table not too long ago when I hit 12 vs 14 in a slightly negative count. The players immediately lambasted me because the dealer instead of busting caught a 20. The funny thing is I got in the last word because for the next 5 rounds in a row, every single person at the table won as the dealer kept busting. In that time I got 2 blackjacks. I then teased them and said, "What was that you were saying about me messing up the flow?" Needless to say, they just grumbled and pretty much shut up. After that, I didn't hear any more complaints about my play from the table as I think they all learned a valuable lesson.
 
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bjcount

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#23
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Thunder said:
I was at a table not too long ago when I hit 12 vs 14 in a slightly negative count. The players immediately lambasted me because the dealer instead of busting caught a 20. The funny thing is I got in the last word because for the next 5 rounds in a row, every single person at the table won as the dealer kept busting. In that time I got 2 blackjacks. I then teased them and said, "What was that you were saying about me messing up the flow?" Needless to say, they just grumbled and pretty much shut up. After that, I didn't hear any more complaints about my play from the table as I think they all learned a valuable lesson.
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That worked out well for you and the table.
It's becomes much more interesting when you hit 12 v 6 (at the correct neg index) playing third base. :eek:

Groans, Moans, and four letter words were not said in lip sync mode only :).

Needless to say it saved the table when I pulled a 4 and the dealers 16 ended with a break. Wish it was that easy all the time.

BJC
 
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Nash51

Member
#24
#24
I do not count cards but I play a strong bs game.

I hear alot feedback when I hit my 12 on the dealers 12 or 13. I always have a copy of the bs chart on a 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper in my pocket at the tables. When shoe ends I show the complainers the sheet and point out it is bs.
 
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Blue Efficacy

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I like when I get the chance to hit 12 v 6.

Sure, it means I am playing at negative counts, but on the other hand, it is a good way to get rid of annoying ploppies. Almost as good as splitting 10s. ALMOST.
 
hawkeye

hawkeye

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#26
#26
What's the silliest thing you've seen someone walk over? I sent a ploppy away in disgust for hitting a Soft17, he couldn't believe it!:laugh:
 
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Kasi

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#28
#28
If you guys like moans and groans, try playing SP21 in AC sometime.

They're only mildly pis*ed off when you hit all the 12's.

They call you names and make veiled threats when you hit all 13's.

When you hit 14 vs 3, they pretty much lose it completely.

And, then, there's my absolute favorite hand of all, I just can't wait to get it,
the 3-or-more-card 17 vs Ace and you ask for a card. That's when a guy called management on me after shouting at the dealer who was going to give me the card after I asked for it for the 4th time, and told them I shouldn't be allowed to do it, it was illegal, and I should be kicked out. The guy was apoplectic. You just never know what will happen with that hand but it's almost never good.

It just makes the game that much more fun for me lol.
 
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Johnrfla

Active Member
#29
#29
on a 12 vs 2 I get sick of hearing you took the dealers bust card, however one day at a full table I did hit the 12vs 2 and heard that phrase, and indeed it was a 10 however the dealer flipped over the card and had a 9 drew a 4 followed by a 10 to bust.
The one quiet person flipped me a green chip and said thank you for saving the table
 
ihate17

ihate17

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#30
#30
Hope it makes you feel better

Nash51 said:
I do not count cards but I play a strong bs game.

I hear alot feedback when I hit my 12 on the dealers 12 or 13. I always have a copy of the bs chart on a 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper in my pocket at the tables. When shoe ends I show the complainers the sheet and point out it is bs.
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You get a chance to justify why you hit your 12 but to most complainers all they know is that they lost that hand. The so called, "Book"! I hear the comment all the time, who wrote the book? The answer by these complainers is, "the casino wrote the book."

So if it makes you feel better to show these people a BS card, fine but overall they do not care. If they did, they would have one also and use it.

I remember playing with a lady who kept a BS card next to her chips. She would get a hand like 12vs3 or perhaps 9,9 or soft 18 and look at her card and announce, "I am not going to do that," and then play the hand wrong.

From a cardcounting point of view.
These people are annoying and can possibly bring more attention to me than I want but, they are a necessary evil because I need these people to keep the casino profitable.

ihate17
 
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tribute

Well-Known Member
#31
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Nash51 said:
I do not count cards but I play a strong bs game.

I hear alot feedback when I hit my 12 on the dealers 12 or 13. I always have a copy of the bs chart on a 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper in my pocket at the tables. When shoe ends I show the complainers the sheet and point out it is bs.
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When I present a strategy card, they always say, "Yea, but those cards can be WRONG!"
 
hawkeye

hawkeye

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#33
#33
Do you guys seriously carry those cards around with in casinos? I would laugh out loud if someone pulled one out, tell them that the "goddess of the flow" doesn't like those cards.
 
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johndoe

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#34
#34
I used to have one from Circus Circus that was a little wheel that you dialed your hand vs. dealer's. It was atrociously wrong. I should have kept it to use like an idiot.

Though since it was a wheel, I wonder if it can be considered a "device". Heh.
 
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Kasi

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#36
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LOL

Once, at the Trop in Vegas at a $5 min table a couple of young blondes would share a BS card and take about 45 seconds each to look up how to play their hand from the card.

I could tell from 4 seats away by the color pattern of the card, they were not using the right card for that game.

Since they were young and cute, I told them it wasn't exactly the right card to use and would tell them when they were going to make a wrong play.

They thanked me profusely but, apparently, not for the first time lol, I lacked credibility and they just followed their card lol.

The very first time I ever played SP21 I had a credit-card sized BS card in my hand to consult for some of those "how many cards are in your hand stuff". Some asshole got really pissed at me and demanded I be removed for playing so crazy. He was betting $100 and I was betting $5 lol. I admit to being a litttle intimidated becasue it was the very first time I ever had played SP21. The Boss came over to see what all the shouting was about, demanded to know what I was looking at (it was just a computer print-out on a piece of paper obviously not some laminated store-bought card lol), looked at it for a little bit, asked if that was really how I was playing, and told the $100 guy I was very welcome lmao.

Heck, once, a guy actually brought a BJ BS card to my SP21 table. He pissed me off very early with some comments so I just rolled my eyes and let him do his thing while alternately cringing at his play and smiling at his result lol. And watch and have to listen to him when I made my play and raise his hands to God as if to ask Him "how can you bless this guy?" after seeing my end result. I think he stuck around alot longer and lost more money just because he hated my guts even though I never actually said a word :grin:

I actually missed him when he finally left. Everybody else was so nice after he left it got really boring lol.
 
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shadroch

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hawkeye said:
Do you guys seriously carry those cards around with in casinos? I would laugh out loud if someone pulled one out, tell them that the "goddess of the flow" doesn't like those cards.
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Damn right I carry one around.In fact, I carry a bunch of them, one for every game I intend to play, and always select the one I need after I'm seated.
At 6'3, 350 pounds I don't get many laughs, but so what if I do. I think it throws off the pitboss, who tend not to hawk me much. I might be playing 8D H17 on Monday and 2D S17 the next day. I've never bothered to memorize the entire chart for each and every game I'll be playing.
BTW- My cards have been sanctified by none other than the bishop of Blackjack himself, so I know that are in tune with The Sacred Flow.
 
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