THE WORST ploppy ever last night

[OneAngryDwarf]

This guy was seriously the biggest a-hole I've ever seen at a BJ table. I was sitting third base. No matter WHAT I did he would find some way to blame me for "messing up the table."

One hand, hit a 15 against a 10, bust out. Dealer turns over 16, pulls a 2. Guy's steaming mad.

The VERY NEXT HAND, I hit a 16 against a 10, guy's screaming his head off...I get a 5. Dealer turns over 16 and pulls a 10. I smile sarcastically at the guy, he just mumbles "well he just got lucky..." Uh, no sh*t Sherlock, even with perfect basic strategy and counting it's still all luck, that's why it's called gambling.

At one point he told a guy next to me that "[I am] just playing for myself, he doesn't care about the table." Uh...well...that's true. I couldn't give a flying f*ck about whether you win or not. Actually I take that back, I'm getting great pleasure from seeing you losing.

Finally he gets fed up and leaves...only to come back 30 min. later. And again he starts in with the crap, I caused the table to lose because I hit, I caused the table to lose because I stood (so which is it? or are you psychic/Rain Man and know the order of every single card in the shoe?), he berates another guy for hitting a 9 and "taking the dealer's bust card." Yeah, I'm sure you always stand with 9 too, dickhead.

I've seen many other players grumble/grouse about crap before but this guy took the cake. I only take solace in the fact that his life is obviously very miserable and empty.

 

[1357111317]

Just laugh at these people. It will make them angrier. Then you laugh even more. Then they leave the table, problem solved.

 

[shadroch]

People like that can be great for your EV. Any time you have a bad hand, graciously allow him to buy it off you in order to save the table. Either he will, which is great for you, or he'll shut up.
With a little luck,he'll convince the rest of the table to form a co-op to resue the table from your bad moves on stiff hands. You get to keep your good hands,pawn off the stiffs. Who says ploppies are useless?

 

[Automatic Monkey]

This guy was seriously the biggest a-hole I've ever seen at a BJ table. I was sitting third base. No matter WHAT I did he would find some way to blame me for "messing up the table."

One hand, hit a 15 against a 10, bust out. Dealer turns over 16, pulls a 2. Guy's steaming mad.

The VERY NEXT HAND, I hit a 16 against a 10, guy's screaming his head off...I get a 5. Dealer turns over 16 and pulls a 10. I smile sarcastically at the guy, he just mumbles "well he just got lucky..." Uh, no sh*t Sherlock, even with perfect basic strategy and counting it's still all luck, that's why it's called gambling.

At one point he told a guy next to me that "[I am] just playing for myself, he doesn't care about the table." Uh...well...that's true. I couldn't give a flying f*ck about whether you win or not. Actually I take that back, I'm getting great pleasure from seeing you losing.

Finally he gets fed up and leaves...only to come back 30 min. later. And again he starts in with the crap, I caused the table to lose because I hit, I caused the table to lose because I stood (so which is it? or are you psychic/Rain Man and know the order of every single card in the shoe?), he berates another guy for hitting a 9 and "taking the dealer's bust card." Yeah, I'm sure you always stand with 9 too, dickhead.

I've seen many other players grumble/grouse about crap before but this guy took the cake. I only take solace in the fact that his life is obviously very miserable and empty.

Welcome to our world. You will take every imaginable kind of abuse at the table, including being physically menaced, just for playing as an advantage player.

Think of yourself as a healthy person in an alley where they are shooting heroin. These people are sick addicts. They don't respect your values and methods any more than you respect theirs, and unless you put the needle in your arm too, they never will.

 

[daddybo]

Welcome to our world. You will take every imaginable kind of abuse at the table, including being physically menaced, just for playing as an advantage player.

Think of yourself as a healthy person in an alley where they are shooting heroin. These people are sick addicts. They don't respect your values and methods any more than you respect theirs, and unless you put the needle in your arm too, they never will.

Now that AM is a BRUTAL analogy!

 

[blackchipjim]

tough love

I never tire of the stories about the people who make our job easier. I don't poke at people like this though. I don't play poker for this very reason. If I was the one taking thier money instead of the house there would be big trouble. I had some unfortunate incidents in the past playing poker against people I thought I knew but I guess I didn't. I have learned not to mess with certain people in life.

 

[tfg]

This kind of stuff gets out of hand. About 2 weeks ago, I got beraded for staying on a 3, vs the dealer 2.

Then just the other night, some guy at the table was thinking he was king **** and trying to stop other people from getting onto the table so it "wouldn't disrupt the flow of cards". When the new guy sat down, he didn't hit on a 16 vs 10 or a 15 vs 10. The other people at the table are like flipping out and the one guy said he would've just paid the new guy the $40 or so that he won on the two hands for him to not sit at the table. I was like, WTF is going on with some people?!?!

 

[creeping panther]

A Hole

This guy was seriously the biggest a-hole I've ever seen at a BJ table. I was sitting third base. No matter WHAT I did he would find some way to blame me for "messing up the table."

One hand, hit a 15 against a 10, bust out. Dealer turns over 16, pulls a 2. Guy's steaming mad.

The VERY NEXT HAND, I hit a 16 against a 10, guy's screaming his head off...I get a 5. Dealer turns over 16 and pulls a 10. I smile sarcastically at the guy, he just mumbles "well he just got lucky..." Uh, no sh*t Sherlock, even with perfect basic strategy and counting it's still all luck, that's why it's called gambling.

At one point he told a guy next to me that "[I am] just playing for myself, he doesn't care about the table." Uh...well...that's true. I couldn't give a flying f*ck about whether you win or not. Actually I take that back, I'm getting great pleasure from seeing you losing.

Finally he gets fed up and leaves...only to come back 30 min. later. And again he starts in with the crap, I caused the table to lose because I hit, I caused the table to lose because I stood (so which is it? or are you psychic/Rain Man and know the order of every single card in the shoe?), he berates another guy for hitting a 9 and "taking the dealer's bust card." Yeah, I'm sure you always stand with 9 too, dickhead.

I've seen many other players grumble/grouse about crap before but this guy took the cake. I only take solace in the fact that his life is obviously very miserable and empty.

It is up to the dealer to straighten this out or the PC.

I won't take this **** for long.

CP

 

[prankster]

tfg-
you stayed on a 3?:joker:

 

[FLASH1296]

This sort of thread is not uncommon on online BJ forums and we have all seen some awful play -- but this week I saw something astonishing:

I won't belabor the topic but he was obviously about 65 yrs. old, poor and seemingly of a very low I.Q. and socio-economic class. his wife sat by him.

It was Spanish21.

He bet random amounts of Green Chips.

He SPLIT ALL Pairs [irrespective of what the dealer's Up Card was]; and DOUBLED on 12 or less,
[including ALL Soft hands], again with no concern re: the dealer's Up Card.

He mostly STOOD on hands that might bust.

Almost needless to say, he was vocal ONLY when I hit my stiffs and he subsequently lost.

Obviously he was headed for Tapioca City, but for the hour or so that I played he was losing but still able to find more chips in his coverall pockets.

 

[Thunder]

Next time I see a player about to do a boneheaded move, I'm going to just ask them if they'd be willing to wager a bit more that they won't win the hand.

 

[Bojack1]

It is my belief that there are no bad ploppies, just bad AP's. A ploppy for lack of a better term is just what is described in all accounts of ignorance of play. Its what is expected. Its how an AP handles them which will determine who really is the bad one. Letting ignorance influence intelligence is far worse than being what one may deem a ploppy in the first place.

 

[jack.jackson]

Trust me! You'll never find these type of cowards, to have enough enough courage to sit at third base. Instead, they'll choose to sit in the middle and blame every third baseman, for their loses, everytime they play. The more you win, the madder they get:laugh:Just imagine the type of criticism, the "sloppy ploppy "receives. They're merely Degenerate Gamblers, who need excuses, for their dismal failures. Tell'em to stfu or happily find another table.

 

[21forme]

One of my favorites:
I was playing Sp21 and a husband/wife couple at the table were groaning after every one of my plays which deviated from standard BJ BS (hitting all 12s, 13 v 456, surr 17 v A, etc.)
Finally, after about 2 hours and their 4th or 5th buy-in, one looks at my pile of chips and says to the other "he sure is lucky for a lousy player."

 

[jimbob]

Why insult other players?

Let's see, you have spent a great deal of time accumulating knowledge and expertise that you know the rest of the population does not have. Then you go to play in a place where the vast majority of other players fit that category of not knowing. Then you get upset when they question your advantage plays or when they make un-educated plays.

Seems to me that the problem may not lie with the other players.

Other players are going to groan when we make advantage plays that they are unaware of. That is a fact of our life. Insulting other players and calling them names like "ploppy" will not change that.

 

[jimbob]

This guy was seriously the biggest a-hole I've ever seen at a BJ table. I was sitting third base. No matter WHAT I did he would find some way to blame me for "messing up the table."

One hand, hit a 15 against a 10, bust out. Dealer turns over 16, pulls a 2. Guy's steaming mad.

The VERY NEXT HAND, I hit a 16 against a 10, guy's screaming his head off...I get a 5. Dealer turns over 16 and pulls a 10. I smile sarcastically at the guy, he just mumbles "well he just got lucky..." Uh, no sh*t Sherlock, even with perfect basic strategy and counting it's still all luck, that's why it's called gambling.

At one point he told a guy next to me that "[I am] just playing for myself, he doesn't care about the table." Uh...well...that's true. I couldn't give a flying f*ck about whether you win or not. Actually I take that back, I'm getting great pleasure from seeing you losing.

Finally he gets fed up and leaves...only to come back 30 min. later. And again he starts in with the crap, I caused the table to lose because I hit, I caused the table to lose because I stood (so which is it? or are you psychic/Rain Man and know the order of every single card in the shoe?), he berates another guy for hitting a 9 and "taking the dealer's bust card." Yeah, I'm sure you always stand with 9 too, dickhead.

I've seen many other players grumble/grouse about crap before but this guy took the cake. I only take solace in the fact that his life is obviously very miserable and empty.

If the guy was being truly abusive couldn't you appeal to the pit boss to get him off your back? I have had to do that a few times. For the most part I don't think casinos like it when one player starts harassing other players.

 

[Diver]

index play?

tfg-
you stayed on a 3?:joker:

No doubt it was a very high count index play
if not a typo

 

[jimbob]

This kind of stuff gets out of hand. About 2 weeks ago, I got beraded for staying on a 3, vs the dealer 2.

I would have beraded you also! You must mean soft 13. I can't imagine why you would stand on that.

 

[nc-tom]

It is my belief that there are no bad ploppies, just bad AP's. A ploppy for lack of a better term is just what is described in all accounts of ignorance of play. Its what is expected. Its how an AP handles them which will determine who really is the bad one. Letting ignorance influence intelligence is far worse than being what one may deem a ploppy in the first place.

Great quotes omething to keep in mind

 

[shadroch]

Great quotes omething to keep in mind

It's strange that all these great APs claim they can keep control when confronted in person,yet fly off the handle so easily when someone makes a comment on the internet they object to.
I've pretty much come to the conclusion that there are two or three true APs here, and the rest are just blowing smoke out of their asses.