My 3-day Ban: An Open Letter

My bad!

I was not having a good day when I found a certain post (below) on another forum. The Forum in question, Fight Club, is not a forum where knowledge is shared, but rather where insults and accusations and testosterone are despensed for no good reason.

This unweildly so-called Fight Club is a place where outrageous claims and attacks are bantered about and respondents are often edited or even banned permanently without "due-cause", even while the "sanctioned" attackers go on posting outrageous nonense without abatement.

For example, recently a BJF Admin posted that the Ultimate BJ Tour UBT "went bust and lost everything" though when I did a Google for UBT news I found recent news stories and nothing to confirm this 'inside info'. Maybe its true, I don't know.

I do know that in my own case I was banned without notice or explanation at Fight Club even while I continued to be slandered and spuriously OUTED.

And its the outing of LVCHM, my terrible mistake on Thursday, that led to Ken rightly banning me. Actually, my first inclination was to send Ken the subject post and say, "LOOK AT HOW RIDICULOUS THIS IS!!" My second impulse was to out the poster at Fight Club as well.

I didn't follow my first impulse, to send the post below to Ken because I figured he'd just respond with his Buddha-like demeanor that cooler heads should prevail.

And frankly, the crew in question has outed moi so many times that I basically lost my wits, temporarily at least. Never mind that I occaissionally out myself, I still don't like it when others presume to do it.

So what I did was wrong and I am thankful that Ken deleted the offending post before it made matters worse with these so-called 'pros' who have been dropping by lately to reveal our lack of knowledge and expose the charlatans (like me).

In any event, as allowed and encouraged by the BJINFO rules and guidelines, I am re-posting the subject Fight Club post with the offending violation deleted (XXXXX). I think that the subject post is ourageous enough to merit some discussion and analysis, and perhaps lend further insight into the shenanigans of the culprits.

Respectfully, zg

Wow! That's quite a conspiracy theory. It almost belongs in the ZenZone!

BTW, I believe LVHCM has already "outed" himself on this board in an earlier post. A quick search will uncover some info he mentioned about a memorable experience back in 2002. If he didn't want his identity know then he could have edited or deleted that message. It looks like the cat is out of the bag and he doesn't mind.

-Sonny-

Well, I'm the one who beleives in conspiracies!
I beleive Sonny is correct - LQQK:
So Ken, this being the case, I think the next time I earn a 3-day ban, I should be given credit for time served! Yes? zg

In that case you'll have earned 14 mos.+3 days credit.:laugh:

a quick google search confirms the el cortez story...

There's also an interview with him on Arnold Snyder's site.

-Sonny-

The truth of it is

the Fight Club is such a waste. I find it hard to believe Arnold Snyder associates himself with Stalker,et al. I'm now denied access to the website because last week I sent a short note to Arnold Snyder telling him I thought he should s---can the whole site and start over again(without Stalker!)
I'm surprised he's so into censorship.

Oh crap, that was him?!

Anyway, zg, I hope you learned two valuable lessons from this:

1) Outing other players still isn't cool. Ever.
2) Sometimes it's better to take your toys and go home rather than play in a sandbox that's no good for you.

Why do you always type the work look with two capital Q's? Is there any special meaning to it or do you just do it for fun?

It LQQKS like two eyes gawking! zg

I'm just curious, what's your problem with Stalker?

Yup. It only takes one thing to turn a sand box into a littler box, and it doesn't have to be from a cat.

-Sonny-

None. I'm hoping to see him in Vegas so he can keep his word and hurt me. zg the AG (advantage-grifter)

yo moo

you asked exactly the same question on the other website-the answer is the same too.

My answer above wasn't enough? I honestly don't have a problem with him, except when he goes on the attack, meritless, extreme outing of me, and withholds my password from the Fight Club he moderates while he continue to post smack about me.

Little known:
When his partner was sitting in the slammer for a play gone bad in Y2K he didn't hesitate to call me (THE NEOPHYTE) for advice, and that advice led to a multi-hundred-thousand-dollar settlement for the partner.

But now I'm a "clueless neophyte-charlatan who makes a living ripping off newbies and hawking worthless books and software"!

"Huh, I tell ya, I get no respect! Its not easy being me!" zg

.........ZEN DANGERFIELD..................

MY 6000th POST @ BJINFO! - I don't know if this is the same guy you are referring to, but here's a great interview
(not as good as the ZG Interview, of course). Talks about the education of a holecarder, etc. zg

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INTERVIEW WITH THE LEGENDARY HOLE-CARD PLAYER 'RC'

By RWM
(From Blackjack Forum Vol. XXIII #1, Spring 2003)
© 2003 Blackjack Forum

Not all professional blackjack players count cards. There is a very small group of professional gamblers using a technique with a much higher advantage. These players are known as "hole carders." If a blackjack player knows the dealer’s hole card his edge with perfect play is 13.06% according to Beyond Counting, by James Grosjean. Even with cover plays to mask what they do, the edge can be close to 10%. 10%! Card counters will fly off to Third World countries in the midst of a civil war to play a game with a 2% edge. Why isn’t everyone playing these games? The answer is: It ain’t easy.

For every one hour spent on the table playing, the hole-card player may spend ten hours scouting. He spends hours and hours walking in and out of casinos, often in hundred-degree heat, checking dealers for the slightest leak. Most players, even if shown a dealer who is flashing, would not be able to spot the hole card anyway. Hole carders spend hundreds of hours training their eyes to see something that flashes by in a fraction of a second, often cast in shadow.

...more - http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/interviewRC.htm

Class act, Zg!

I'm learning this so I can run for office.

I'd like to see more 'analysis' of that subject post's outrageous claims. zg

Ps - Always make sure that [/quote] is at the end of the previous post!

Here is the only endorsement I've given in FIVE YEARS (to the best of my recollection) -
The Big Book of Blackjack by Arnold Snyder

Where's Robert Anton wilson when you need him to debunk a conspiracy theory?

Robert Anton Wilson would have given this conspiracy thorough reseach to dbunk it any every other conspiracy at the same time. Then let the whole world off for good behavior and time served.