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#21
December 7th, 2011, 12:12 PM
 aslan Executive Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 3,772

Quote:
 Originally Posted by blackjack avenger The highest SCORE is playing 2 hands all the time. This is for 100 hands played. Some factors: The 2nd hand slows the game down, not just your play but dealer payoffs etc. If you have to bet double table minimum it can be a factor, but for the dealer to even take the time to explain this is a waste for the house.
Well, having higher score, wouldn't that mean that there is lower risk playing two hands than one hand, and therefore, RoR should be reduced? That, coupled with higher variance, leaves me a little perplexed, but maybe my thinking is skewed. Help me out. BTW, wouldn't two hands at a time have the same bankroll requirements as one hand at a time? Trick question.

PS-- Assumption: minimum table limit may be played on both hands.

Last edited by aslan; December 7th, 2011 at 12:20 PM.
#22
December 7th, 2011, 10:56 PM
 blackjack avenger Executive Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,435
not sure i follow

Quote:
 Originally Posted by aslan Well, having higher score, wouldn't that mean that there is lower risk playing two hands than one hand, and therefore, RoR should be reduced? That, coupled with higher variance, leaves me a little perplexed, but maybe my thinking is skewed. Help me out. BTW, wouldn't two hands at a time have the same bankroll requirements as one hand at a time? Trick question. PS-- Assumption: minimum table limit may be played on both hands.
According to Qfit using SCORE:
2 hands all the time
beats
2 hands when positive
beats
1 hand all the time

Betting .73% ? of 1 hand bet on each of 2 spots

The above does not consider game speed.

In the short run; about 100 hrs, variance is higher. Obviously, one can lose both bets.
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#23
December 7th, 2011, 11:06 PM
 kewljason Executive Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,158

Are we just considering the mathematical aspect of playing 2 hands or can we add heat considerations? In some places 2 hands draws a great deal of heat. Vegas for instants, seems particular sensitive to spreading to 2 hands. Much more so than other locations. And even more so if we are talking about doubledeck games. What good is the mathematical advantages of doing so, if you get flagged immediately.
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#24
December 8th, 2011, 02:52 AM
 zengrifter Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 7,400

No, referring to 2 hands as constant.
#25
December 11th, 2011, 10:35 AM
 moo321 Executive Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,534

Quote:
 Originally Posted by kewljason Are we just considering the mathematical aspect of playing 2 hands or can we add heat considerations? In some places 2 hands draws a great deal of heat. Vegas for instants, seems particular sensitive to spreading to 2 hands. Much more so than other locations. And even more so if we are talking about doubledeck games. What good is the mathematical advantages of doing so, if you get flagged immediately.
I believe the original question regarded wonging: if you're getting busted wonging, you're probably playing too long, and/or betting too much.
#26
December 11th, 2011, 11:06 AM
 BrianCP Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 113

So a good way to increase score while wonging out at TC's of -1 would be playing two hands constantly? Makes sense, you play twice as many hands as you normally would.
#27
December 11th, 2011, 11:29 AM
 Alvaro Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: G.B (Argentina) Posts: 22

Quote:
 Originally Posted by BrianCP So a good way to increase score while wonging out at TC's of -1 would be playing two hands constantly? Makes sense, you play twice as many hands as you normally would.

You play more "hand" but, less "rounds".
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#28
December 11th, 2011, 04:25 PM
 aslan Executive Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 3,772

Quote:
 Originally Posted by Alvaro You play more "hand" but, less "rounds".
Only if you assume a less than full table. Right?
#29
December 12th, 2011, 11:40 AM
 BrianCP Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 113

Hey Ken, you missed a spot!
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December 12th, 2011, 02:07 PM
 tthree Banned Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,146

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