SCOREs for Spanish

[moo321]

I'm curious if we have any SCORE comparisons between Spanish and regular blackjack. Say, 1-20 spreads on 6 deckers.

The score for play all on shoe games is usually too low for me, but I'm wondering if Spanish ends up with decent numbers.

 

[FLASH1296]

Here you are:

There is reference to this in Katarina Walker's great book - "The Pro's Guide to Spanish 21".

See pp 81, 85 - 89

Page 89 presents Table 6.11

"benchmark win rate, advantage and SCORES for three playing levels and various sets of rules."

600,000,000 hand sim's are used

27 game versions, (including Pontoon) are given, with 3 playing levels for 81 SCORES.

The three playing levels are: Basic Strategy, Illustrious 18, and All Indices.

Basically, you can get a Win Rate over $50 with an advantage over 2%, but SCORES top out at 55.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

I'm curious if we have any SCORE comparisons between Spanish and regular blackjack. Say, 1-20 spreads on 6 deckers.

The score for play all on shoe games is usually too low for me, but I'm wondering if Spanish ends up with decent numbers.

There is very little 6D available, but with 8D, S17, play-all, 2 hands, 1-20 spread, you have a SCORE around 53. That's using the Secret Monkey Count and 1.5 decks pen, it'll be around 50 using the system in Kat Walker's book.

By Wonging out of extreme low counts you can raise the SCORE to over 60, and that is a realistic way to simulate because sooner or later you have to go to the bathroom, might as well do it in low counts. The more you drink, the more you have to piss, and the more frequently you have to Wong out. So drinking at the table increases your SCORE.

 

[zengrifter]

The more you drink, the more you have to piss, and the more frequently you have to Wong out. So drinking at the table increases your SCORE.

Now there's an original monkeyism! zg

 

[moo321]

There is very little 6D available, but with 8D, S17, play-all, 2 hands, 1-20 spread, you have a SCORE around 53. That's using the Secret Monkey Count and 1.5 decks pen, it'll be around 50 using the system in Kat Walker's book.

By Wonging out of extreme low counts you can raise the SCORE to over 60, and that is a realistic way to simulate because sooner or later you have to go to the bathroom, might as well do it in low counts. The more you drink, the more you have to piss, and the more frequently you have to Wong out. So drinking at the table increases your SCORE.

Hmm... 60 isn't bad. Is that a 1 to 2x20 or 1 to 2x10 spread?

And what would the score move to on a 6 deck game with those rules?

 

[Kasi]

I'm curious if we have any SCORE comparisons between Spanish and regular blackjack. Say, 1-20 spreads on 6 deckers.

The score for play all on shoe games is usually too low for me, but I'm wondering if Spanish ends up with decent numbers.

Well, all I can tell you she gives enough info in her appendices (freq distributions at various pen levels in APP C, Adv var and covariance at TC's in App B using BS or I18 or all indexes. So one can run one's own manual "sims" lol.

It may leave a little something to be desired but I think it can get you in the ballpark as to what to expect anyway.

Don't know if Norm's stuff can run sims on SP21 or not. It does every other thing under the sun, so why not I guess lol.

 

[PrinceDragon]

but with 8D, S17, play-all, 2 hands, 1-20 spread, you have a SCORE around 53. That's using the Secret Monkey Count and 1.5 decks pen, it'll be around 50 using the system in Kat Walker's book.

Hi AM:
Did you sim SP21 using CVDATA? if you did,i would like to ask a few questions,
cuz i'm having a very hard time trying to sim this game.
I had Kat's book,and my store has this game with excellent condition.
Any help will be greatly appreciated

P.D.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

Hi AM:
Did you sim SP21 using CVDATA? if you did,i would like to ask a few questions,
cuz i'm having a very hard time trying to sim this game.
I had Kat's book,and my store has this game with excellent condition.
Any help will be greatly appreciated

P.D.

You'll need the latest version of CVData, do you have that?

 

[PrinceDragon]

CVDATA Version 4.0.147
This should be the up to date version.
P.D.

 

[PrinceDragon]

Am

I think my problem maybe is the custom TC cacl,please take a look and let me know if something wrong with it.
Thank you very much
P.D.

 

[Automatic Monkey]

I think my problem maybe is the custom TC cacl,please take a look and let me know if something wrong with it.
Thank you very much
P.D.

Not necessary- just use custom decks and let the software handle the TC calculation.

 

[PrinceDragon]

I try that too,but the numbers that came out just doesn't make any sense