3 Cards Equal 11...
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somtum
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On the flip side:.. Not too long ago there was a young lady playing $500.00 bets every hand and whenever the dealer had a bust card and her's wasn't a stiff she would double every time. Dealer would have 6 showing and her 2 cards totaled 5. (2,3) .. Yep.. she doubled. And the funny thing is that she kept on winning. I could tell it concerned the ploppies at the table but they didn't really say anything. I guess it's sort of that respect factor towards high rollers.
Any of us who have played a lot over the years sees this kind of thing happen. Sometimes....maybe most of the time....it's a disaster and you're the witness to the "train wreck". The times they win, and that happens too, you just sit or stand there shaking your head. The certain knowledge is that they're going to lose in the long run but in the short run it's fascinating to watch.
ihate17
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Just in case I am not missing something here
You now have a 3 card 11 and the dealer has a 3 showing.
You have no knowledge of either the dealer's hole card or what card is the next one to be dealt.
If this is correct--I can only imagine that your thought of standing has something to do with not taking the dealer's bust card and you are taking for granted that the dealer has a 10 in the hole and will hit another one to bust?
Realize that the dealer could more easily have a 4,5,6,7, or 8 in the hole and hit than same 10 and beat your 11. The dealer could have an ace and it would take two cards to bust or even if the dealer has a 9 or 10 in the hole, he still will not bust but about 30% of the time or so on one card.
Instead you should be hitting and hopeful that indeed the next card is a 10 so you have 21. 11 vs dealer 3 is a nicely positive EV hand if you hit and a highly negative EV hand if you stay.
ihate17
You now have a 3 card 11 and the dealer has a 3 showing.
You have no knowledge of either the dealer's hole card or what card is the next one to be dealt.
If this is correct--I can only imagine that your thought of standing has something to do with not taking the dealer's bust card and you are taking for granted that the dealer has a 10 in the hole and will hit another one to bust?
Realize that the dealer could more easily have a 4,5,6,7, or 8 in the hole and hit than same 10 and beat your 11. The dealer could have an ace and it would take two cards to bust or even if the dealer has a 9 or 10 in the hole, he still will not bust but about 30% of the time or so on one card.
Instead you should be hitting and hopeful that indeed the next card is a 10 so you have 21. 11 vs dealer 3 is a nicely positive EV hand if you hit and a highly negative EV hand if you stay.
ihate17
moo321
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Very possible she was hole-carding...
Blue Efficacy
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"Every time" would imply that she was doing it when the dealer had a little card in the hole, too.
Forums are here to aks questions. I'm just starting to learn the game. And this question came up. So, do you have any OTHER advise instead of don't gamble?
So, you sound like you must be the World Blackjack Champion? Well, propbaly not. You wouldn't be here. If these questions bother you, don't be absurd and answer it. Let the conversation flow with the nice ones like KEN who graciously answered.
Of course not, and your obnoxious attitude will get you nowhere. I have no problem with new people asking questions, and I do answer them regularly.
But when someone asks such a ridiculous question like this, it's entirely reasonable to assume that if such a person did endeavor to sit at a table, they would be brutally taught a very expensive lesson.
You should be thanking us for the warning.
ExhibitCAA
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johndoe, I think you nailed it.
Beyond that, the question is so ridiculous that most of us would view the post as a troll. We assume some ulterior motive--starting a flame war, pushing or selling a bogus system, distracting from some other thread, etc. And yet, I have seen precisely the type of atrocious play alluded to in the original question. In games in Europe where there is no hole card, I have seen players stand on hard 11 v 6, among other atrocious plays. Seeing how foolish the players are, it is amazing that any casino on the planet could ever have financial problems.
Beyond that, the question is so ridiculous that most of us would view the post as a troll. We assume some ulterior motive--starting a flame war, pushing or selling a bogus system, distracting from some other thread, etc. And yet, I have seen precisely the type of atrocious play alluded to in the original question. In games in Europe where there is no hole card, I have seen players stand on hard 11 v 6, among other atrocious plays. Seeing how foolish the players are, it is amazing that any casino on the planet could ever have financial problems.
Many non-Us casinos have financial problems because there are too many fingers reaching into their pockets. Many pay the local mob, and the local police, then the local politicians, ect,ect. It's much the same as in the nightclub business. You see them collecting $20 at the door and charging $14 a drink and think it's a license to print money.