hi-lo and minus 1
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sagefr0g
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that's interesting, i haven't the fogiest.
what was the source that makes you think we should subtract 1 from the true count? you wouldn't be refering to rounding down the true count as a result of obtaining a true count before a number of full decks is dealt out would you?
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mr fr0g
Maybe because 1 TC is equal to a half percent change in edge, and most games start out at a half percent disadvantage. That's the only reason I can think of.
sagefr0g
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twinturboguy
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From what I believe, subtracting one will factor in the built in advantage the house has over you. The advantage may vary depending on the table conditions, penetration, and rules.
sagefr0g
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i dunno a factor of 1 seems a bit too conservative. advantage situations are rare one doesn't want to by pass them by being too conservative.
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mr fr0g
twinturboguy
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i dunno a factor of 1 seems a bit too conservative. advantage situations are rare one doesn't want to by pass them by being too conservative.
best regards,
mr fr0g
1 might be a rough estimate of what the house advantage might be. Again, depends on the table conditions too. If there are very rare opportunities of advantage situations, perhaps the house has a very significant edge over the players and its probably not a good game to start with in the first place unless you're patient.
Sonny
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The house edge may vary quite a bit based on the rules. A good shoe game may have an edge of only –0.2%. In that case you would be underestimating your advantage and not earning as much as someone who uses the traditional TC.
There must be something I’m missing here. Why not just use the actual true count and wait until +2 to raise your bets? Why go through the trouble of doing more math than you have to?
I’m curious to see what his system is all about. Has anyone else seen his DVD?-Sonny-
Sonny
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If there are very rare opportunities of advantage situations, perhaps the house has a very significant edge over the players and its probably not a good game to start with in the first place unless you're patient.
Patience will always be the key to winning. Even a great game will only turn positive about 25-30% of the time. Most shoe players will wait and only play those positive situations, or at least walk away from most of the negative ones. It takes a lot of patience (and walking!) but the rewards are definitely worth the effort.
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sagefr0g
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1 might be a rough estimate of what the house advantage might be. Again, depends on the table conditions too. If there are very rare opportunities of advantage situations, perhaps the house has a very significant edge over the players and its probably not a good game to start with in the first place unless you're patient.
tell you what twinturb even in good games your advantage opportunities are rare. patience, ah yes that is the quintessential element one needs in this game.
a calm quiet confident watchful waiting in hope. then when the moment comes seize it! like a crocodile bursting forth out of the water to seize a watering antelope or a lioness stalking and chasing down her prey. they might not always succeed but they shall in the long run eat. so shall we. :devil: :laugh:
best regards,
mr fr0g