any book/essay for shuffle tracking/ block tracking
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but it seems already out of print
any good essay online
i found its hardly find any useful topic on internet
(Dead link: http://www.blackjackshuffletracking.com/)
http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/playing/tracking.htm (Archive copy)
http://www.ace-ten.com/strategy/advanced/clumps/
There are a bunch more sites, all I did was google "blackjack shuffle tracking" Also blackbelt in blackjack has a chapter dedicated to advanced techniques including shuffle tracking. The latest edition I bought for about $30 at Borders bookstore.
http://www.bjmath.com/bjmath/playing/tracking.htm (Archive copy)
http://www.ace-ten.com/strategy/advanced/clumps/
There are a bunch more sites, all I did was google "blackjack shuffle tracking" Also blackbelt in blackjack has a chapter dedicated to advanced techniques including shuffle tracking. The latest edition I bought for about $30 at Borders bookstore.
QFIT
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The first site is useless. Constant repetition and vague statements surrounded by casino ads.
The second site is an important,classic article.
Avoid the clumping discussion on the third site.
I see, well the second site, thats where I learned it. Where do you suggest the OP start to learn the basics of shuffle tracking?
QFIT
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Good stuff, I might go and find some of those books for myself. Thanks
zengrifter
Banned
George C.'s 'Shuffle Tracking for Dummies' is a good start.
Also, the best of Snyder's ST Cookbook was included in current BBIBJ.
Also, here is ST search results of Google Groups
Also, the best of Snyder's ST Cookbook was included in current BBIBJ.
Also, here is ST search results of Google Groups
Couldn't disagree more regarding George C's book. It may have been worthwhile for the time it was published, but even if all you've read is Blackbelt you've been exposed to everything in GC's book and more. For the money, if you're going to buy a book the cookbook's the best place to start - but BBIBJ is a very good beginning. GC's book is just overpriced for the fairly shallow treatment of the topic it gives.
I'm including a link to a site that appears to still have copies of the cookbook
http://cardozabooks.com/Casino-Games/Blackjack/BLACKJACK-SHUFFLE-TRACKER-S-COOKBOOK.html
Norm's being a little modest in not mentioning his own treatment of ST in Modern Blackjack Vol 2, although i would add that it deals more with the mathematics of the strategy rather than the specifics of what you need to be able to do to be sucessful. Still a useful resource however. You can find it all online by simply forwarding through the pages from the one he mentioned above.
RJT.
Is it worth it?
How worthwhile is it to add ST to one's arsenal? Not necessarily how much can it theoretically improve the SCORE, which is in qfit's book, but rather how many opportunities are there actually to exploit shuffles (east coast)? Is any non-ASM shuffle exploitable to some degree? And is it worth the extra time required in preparation of learning the techniques and skills required to manage ST?
How worthwhile is it to add ST to one's arsenal? Not necessarily how much can it theoretically improve the SCORE, which is in qfit's book, but rather how many opportunities are there actually to exploit shuffles (east coast)? Is any non-ASM shuffle exploitable to some degree? And is it worth the extra time required in preparation of learning the techniques and skills required to manage ST?
Automatic Monkey
Banned
There is very little left that can be exploited in lieu of straight counting, but there are many things that can be exploited in conjunction with straight counting.
The best way to learn it, in my opinion, is to get a shoe of cards, mark them up as needed, and practice- see what riffling, stripping, and cutting do to the location of the cards and the order of the cards. After that, it's just a matter of recognizing exploitable shuffles and doing the math.
The best way to learn it, in my opinion, is to get a shoe of cards, mark them up as needed, and practice- see what riffling, stripping, and cutting do to the location of the cards and the order of the cards. After that, it's just a matter of recognizing exploitable shuffles and doing the math.
I did that with using a keycard for an ace on DD but I have yet to apply it in real play. Also I dont know what the actual shuffle of the casino is.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
Well yeah, it's all about legwork and finding places to play once you understand shuffle mechanics. And a very exploitable shuffle isn't something people are going to share with you just to be sociable, and it must never be discussed publicly.
Maestro
Active Member
Blackjack Blueprint by Rick Blaine had a two chapters devoted to shuffle tracking and ace location.
zengrifter
Banned
There is some extra information in the Cookbook - although i don't know if i've read the lastest edition of the Blackbelt. That said, either is far superior to GC's effort which honestly is little beyond common sense.
RJT.
paddywhack
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