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boxman119

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5.00 tables are am only during week days for a limited time...Question playing 2 hands at a 5.oo table playing BS to the book 99.9 % of the time..what are your thoughts?....ANY betting stragety that could help?........I have been playing there weekly with 100.00 buy in since last july on average...I have loss limits and win goals most of the time...WHAT kind of money management makes you win if you cant count cards?....ALSO COUNTING 5'S only with BS can that help....
 
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boxman119 said:
5.00 tables are am only during week days for a limited time...Question playing 2 hands at a 5.oo table playing BS to the book 99.9 % of the time..what are your thoughts?....ANY betting stragety that could help?........I have been playing there weekly with 100.00 buy in since last july on average...I have loss limits and win goals most of the time...WHAT kind of money management makes you win if you cant count cards?....ALSO COUNTING 5'S only with BS can that help....
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The Predator system would suit you swell but you still need to count.

CP
 
Hey Now!
I'd love some more info about this system also..
I have no trouble using KO in Vegas playing DD, but the shoe games in AC throw me off, and I end up flat betting using BS....
thanks!
 
boxman119 said:
5.00 tables are am only during week days for a limited time...Question playing 2 hands at a 5.oo table playing BS to the book 99.9 % of the time..what are your thoughts?....ANY betting stragety that could help?........I have been playing there weekly with 100.00 buy in since last july on average...I have loss limits and win goals most of the time...WHAT kind of money management makes you win if you cant count cards?....ALSO COUNTING 5'S only with BS can that help....
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Why can't you count cards?

You can start from using Hi Opt I. The initial running count is zero. Each time you see a ten, you subtract 1 from the running count. Each time you see a 3,4,5 or 6, you add 1 to the running count

true count = running count / remaining deck.

For starters, you don't use index play, you just play perfect Basic Strategy. That will cut your winning by half. But you have to bet according to the true count:

TC Bet Size
0/neg 1
+1 4
+2 8
+3 12
+4 16
+5 20

Rivers use 8 deck, your ideal spread is 20 to 1.

And counting is much easier than you think.
 
BJgenius007 said:
Why can't you count cards?

You can start from using Hi Opt I. The initial running count is zero. Each time you see a ten, you subtract 1 from the running count. Each time you see a 3,4,5 or 6, you add 1 to the running count

true count = running count / remaining deck.

For starters, you don't use index play, you just play perfect Basic Strategy. That will cut your winning by half. But you have to bet according to the true count:

TC Bet Size
0/neg 1
+1 4
+2 8
+3 12
+4 16
+5 20

Rivers use 8 deck, your ideal spread is 20 to 1.

And counting is much easier than you think.
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20 to 1 with a $100 buy in? I assume he means that is his trip bankroll. That's not going to work.
 
count..

BJgenius007 said:
Why can't you count cards?

You can start from using Hi Opt I. The initial running count is zero. Each time you see a ten, you subtract 1 from the running count. Each time you see a 3,4,5 or 6, you add 1 to the running count

true count = running count / remaining deck.

For starters, you don't use index play, you just play perfect Basic Strategy. That will cut your winning by half. But you have to bet according to the true count:

TC Bet Size
0/neg 1
+1 4
+2 8
+3 12
+4 16
+5 20

Rivers use 8 deck, your ideal spread is 20 to 1.

And counting is much easier than you think.
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Thanks so much for your info.....I have a shoe that holds 6/8 decks with chips and a black jack lay out..need to practice..next step in the quest is to count..
 
boxman119 said:
5.00 tables are am only during week days for a limited time...Question playing 2 hands at a 5.oo table playing BS to the book 99.9 % of the time..what are your thoughts?....ANY betting stragety that could help?........I have been playing there weekly with 100.00 buy in since last july on average...I have loss limits and win goals most of the time...WHAT kind of money management makes you win if you cant count cards?....ALSO COUNTING 5'S only with BS can that help....
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can someone send info on 5's?......tks again
 
boxman119 said:
can someone send info on 5's?......tks again
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I think $5 table is for one night only. It is the opening night of iTable. Recently when I visited the Rivers, the iTable has $10 minimal.

The Rivers has two $5 ASM tables when they open the tables at 1PM or 2PM near the Wheeling Bar. But they change to $10 around 5 PM (4 PM if it is a crowded weekend). They change again to $15 around 8 PM. Note that the Rivers only open all three BJ sections on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. They open only the main section on weekdays. On weekdays evening, tables with ASM have $25 minimal. CSM tables open at $10 then $15 when crowds come in. (Note: I have never been to the Rivers on weekdays morning and afternoon, need someone to confirm the minimal of ASM tables at the earlier time periods.) Also, iTable only opens on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
 
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21gunsalute said:
20 to 1 with a $100 buy in? I assume he means that is his trip bankroll. That's not going to work.
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If you don't spread, you can't make money in the long run.

I have an alternative for people who is short on the bank roll (shoe game only):

TC bet size
neg 1 (play only every other hand)
0 1
+1 4
+2 8
+3 10
+4 10
+5 10

Play every other hand when True Count is negative will lower your spread requirement to 10:1.
 
5.00 tables

BJgenius007 said:
I think $5 table is for one night only. It is the opening night of iTable. Recently when I visited the Rivers, the iTable has $10 minimal.

The Rivers has two $5 ASM tables when they open the tables at 1PM or 2PM near the Wheeling Bar. But they change to $10 around 5 PM (4 PM if it is a crowded weekend). They change again to $15 around 8 PM. Note that the Rivers only open all three BJ sections on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. They open only the main section on weekdays. On weekdays evening, tables with ASM have $25 minimal. CSM tables open at $10 then $15 when crowds come in. (Note: I have never been to the Rivers on weekdays morning and afternoon, need someone to confirm the minimal of ASM tables at the earlier time periods.) Also, iTable only opens on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
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week days..just off vacation week...5.00 there at 630 am....they bump them up to 10 around 9 am or so...if u get there around 630..suggest a 15.00 to a 5
 
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