The Tip?

tthree said:
Spam is a canned version of reformed ham popular during WWII. It is very cheap. Never ate it.
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Try it they still sell it. Make a Spam sandwich fry it first and put ketchup on it. A treat you might like. For dinner you can fry it and have potatoes and green beans with it. That's when thing were real. Enjoy.
 
Eye of the Tiger said:
Try it they still sell it. Make a Spam sandwich fry it first and put ketchup on it. A treat you might like. For dinner you can fry it and have potatoes and green beans with it. That's when thing were real. Enjoy.
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Your family could afford spam!? :eek:
 

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Caesars Palace, MGM Grand, Wynn handle most of the whales.
Not many years ago that 90K figure would have been correct.

However, those few casinos are statistical outliers.
They are not reflective of the industry norms.
 
FLASH1296 said:

Caesars Palace, MGM Grand, Wynn handle most of the whales.
Not many years ago that 90K figure would have been correct.

However, those few casinos are statistical outliers.
They are not reflective of the industry norms.
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That $90,000 figure was and is correct as of just before our economic downturn. Nobody is doing well currently. And do not be quick to sluff off more recent entires into the whale hunting club-- Palazzo/Venetian, Aria, Cosmopolitan -- whether they get there is another story, and whether stores like Caesar's can keep them coming is also another story. And how in the world did you leave off Bellagio, maybe the most preeminent of them all, unless you included it under the title MGM Grand, which only refers to a single casino-- can we say, MGM Resorts? Bellagio probably has more $10,000 a hand customers than all the rest put together.
 
Yes, it was my error, (of sorts), not mentioning Bellagio — but a precise listing of whale-hunters is moot.

My point was how that 90K figure, while accurate just a few years ago, is NOT remotely reflective of

the earnings of dealers in the other 98%+ of casinos in North America.
 
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I'm aware of the plight of all dealers in the gambling industry. I know that it is a min wage job. If you won a big jackpot how would you tip?
 
FLASH1296 said:
Yes, it was my error, (of sorts), not mentioning Bellagio — but a precise listing of whale-hunters is moot.

My point was how that 90K figure, while accurate just a few years ago, is NOT remotely reflective of

the earnings of dealers in the other 98%+ of casinos in North America.
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No, it is only reflective of the earnings of dealers in the larger strip casinos in Las Vegas in a normal economic time. That's all it was meant to be.

The smaller the casino, probably, the smaller the earnings in most cases. Still, it is indicative of what dealers in other locations may make on a descending scale.

More disturbing than what dealers might be making is what many waiters across the nation make, and they generally are paid BELOW minimum wage, and there also you can argue that the tip is part of the salary, an established convention, and somewhat related to services provided (as to amount of tip anyway). There is no excuse for employers who are responsible for many of these cases, and non-tippers who also contribute to the general disgrace. Dealers on the other hand have no right to expect tips-- they provide no service other than to their employer, it is not an established convention to "always" tip a dealer, and they knowingly take jobs working for an industry that does far more harm to society than good IMHO. If they choose to work for the Evil Empire, they need to at least bargain for a living wage, not hope for some big player windfall. They are not entitled. Still, I tip moderately part as cover and part as trying to help them, realizing that it is not primarily MY responsibility but the casinos that employ them. It must be the liberal streak in me that wants to help them out. If no one did, then it would be entirely up to the casinos to pay them a living wage, as I believe it should be even now.
 
I rarely "toke" a dealer who is manifestly dour or outright unpleasant,

gives deliberately poor penetration, or deals at a "glacial pace"

I try to do most of my toking when the floor-person is watching.

If the dealer is at least marginally pleasant to be around then my practice

is to "toke" (very) small but (very) often; unless I am "hemorrhaging money".
 
Yes, there's no need to tip the dealer if your losing. They don't even expect it at this time, and ploppies generally don't do it either.
 
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