Nightshifter
Well-Known Member
Playallin… how you doing
Depends on what method is being employed. If the table has sensors under the beating spots, then it's just up to machine according to the program … you just have to be observant... if a 6 deck shoe suddenly goes from normal distribution to hills and valleys of high and low cards just from one shuffle through... something is off... you can try that and you'll never see a deck put in this order of extreme just after one shuffle through from a game that's was going along from what would considered to be within the norm. Now if it's set up in the block of cards (6 or 8 decks) because the knowledge of how the shuffler shuffles as to perpetuate clumps that create a wipe out game for unsuspecting players... then you have to wait for to get through what the house (unknown to most players) calls the soaking cycle. It'll go through a peak that's so bad you'll lose almost every hand in the shoe... then it'll just break up in to normal distribution like a clump orgasm... that's the time to sit down and play. What I'm saying falls outside the bell curve... and when it falls out to often to be dismissed as random... something isn't right 
But from an average... about 20-24 units per shoe... so if they're using 2 6 Deck trays... that 40-48 unit drop to get out of that soaking cycle... now that's if both of the 6 Decks are being manipulated... sometimes they're not... it's just one. Observation and experience is the key to all of this... Card Counting, money management and shrewd play absolutely works if implemented with zero error (well maybe one or 2 here and there and there's a lot of technique to be employed which is nothing new to most advanced players here...) but will not work when the cards have been manipulated out of their natural context of events.Again this is just an average of from my experience being a dealer and mileage will vary
I started out doing private events and actually had people offer me money on the side (later after the ordeal was over) if I could make them win so they could get the grand prize... like a new computer system. So don't think some form of cheating doesn't go on … money is a very good persuader 
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