So I split Aces and...
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ihate17
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My guess, no splitting aces?
So, you have 2 hands that add up to a grand total of 4. Did you win?
A few days ago, in one of the cheating threads, I mentioned strange things that have happened to me playing blackjack. One that came to mind right away was getting 7 straight aces. It was at a game where you could re-split aces, and my first 7 cards were aces, followed by a 5. Left me with 4 hands:2,2,2 and 6. Dealer busted!
Guess it is not waisting aces if you win.
ihate17
I got 2 more Aces
So, you have 2 hands that add up to a grand total of 4. Did you win?
A few days ago, in one of the cheating threads, I mentioned strange things that have happened to me playing blackjack. One that came to mind right away was getting 7 straight aces. It was at a game where you could re-split aces, and my first 7 cards were aces, followed by a 5. Left me with 4 hands:2,2,2 and 6. Dealer busted!
Guess it is not waisting aces if you win.
ihate17
I got 2 more Aces
Thats awesome if you can re-split aces. If you are playing at a table that you can not resplit aces, your not finding the best place to play at.
Brock Windsor
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RSA is not very common in the joints I play (can only think of one place that allows)
% wise how often do you see it? Is it most common in LV?
BW
We will not play tables that are not favorable to us. Table selection
( Mathematically) is key. You always want to play with favorable rules. unfortunately for most, these rules are more common at the higher limit tables.
With enough bank, you can negotiate with an establishment to raise the table limits and change the rules. There is hope.
( Mathematically) is key. You always want to play with favorable rules. unfortunately for most, these rules are more common at the higher limit tables.
With enough bank, you can negotiate with an establishment to raise the table limits and change the rules. There is hope.
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worst ace split in history
Harrahs 10 years ago I am 3 rd base and playing 2 hands . I get a apir of aces on both hand and the dealer is showing a 6 . My bet was 1,000.00 a hand so I split and have $4,000.00 out . Firstace I get a 2 , second ace i get a 3 , 3rd ace I got a 4 and 4th ace I got a 5 . I am still not worried till the dick shows an ace with his 6 for 17 and I blew $K . What is the odds of that ? Oh well only time it happened . :grin: 
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Harrahs 10 years ago I am 3 rd base and playing 2 hands . I get a apir of aces on both hand and the dealer is showing a 6 . My bet was 1,000.00 a hand so I split and have $4,000.00 out . Firstace I get a 2 , second ace i get a 3 , 3rd ace I got a 4 and 4th ace I got a 5 . I am still not worried till the dick shows an ace with his 6 for 17 and I blew $K . What is the odds of that ? Oh well only time it happened .
:grin: :cool2:Harrahs 10 years ago I am 3 rd base and playing 2 hands . I get a apir of aces on both hand and the dealer is showing a 6 . My bet was 1,000.00 a hand so I split and have $4,000.00 out . Firstace I get a 2 , second ace i get a 3 , 3rd ace I got a 4 and 4th ace I got a 5 . I am still not worried till the dick shows an ace with his 6 for 17 and I blew $K . What is the odds of that ? Oh well only time it happened .
Again table rules, double after split. Simple BS play but bad table rules.
ihate17
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Where can you do that
Sure, all the games I play allow double after split but they only let you take one card on split aces so you can not DAS on aces.
ihate17
Sure, all the games I play allow double after split but they only let you take one card on split aces so you can not DAS on aces.
ihate17
No resplit in AC. I lost both hands. Fortunately, I didn't had a big bet out.
It's a nice rule but I wouldn't exactly call it awesome myself.
Worth next to nothing in a single-deck game, more the more decks you have.
I guess an extra betting unit every 20 hours or so at a full table is better than not having it.
And to think you are not playing the best game available based soley on this one rule is silly and I don't think you mean that.
Not to mention it's quite possible for a card-counter to make more money on a game with a higher HA compared to a game with a lower HA.
Automatic Monkey
Banned
RSA is a desirable rule, but only marginally so. LS is much more important, because the slope of it's value is much steeper as a function of count.
ChefJJ
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Would you say that there are many more opportunities to use LS than RSA?
Automatic Monkey
Banned
Sure. In an 8D game you get to resplit aces 1 out of 2401 hands, and less with fewer numbers of decks. But with LS you'll be surrendering all the time, especially if you use all the surrender indices where you'll be doing it with some big bets down. Winning by losing!
EasyRhino
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A local casino last month was actually advertising that they were allowing RSA for the month of October. I wasn't really impressed by the tiny tiny fractional difference it made to my bottom line.
RSA rarely matters, but it is certainly nice to have as an option when it crops up.
RSA rarely matters, but it is certainly nice to have as an option when it crops up.
ChefJJ
Well-Known Member
1 in 2401 hands...now that's perspective. Thanks for the info. I had always perceived that there were very few times where I have had the situation of drawing another ace after splitting them.
good luck
Rsa with negative count
If you get A,A for the first two cards and the count is even or high, I would play BS and split, BUT, if the count is real low, should you reconsider and not hit. You know you will probably get two low cards and be stuck with two stiffs that you can't hit again. Also, if you don't hit, at what point would the count need to be to just stay and die (or hope for luck)?
If you get A,A for the first two cards and the count is even or high, I would play BS and split, BUT, if the count is real low, should you reconsider and not hit. You know you will probably get two low cards and be stuck with two stiffs that you can't hit again. Also, if you don't hit, at what point would the count need to be to just stay and die (or hope for luck)?
Gee I have four aces on the table rather than 12 or 2 on 2 hands. I give up on you all. Correct me if im wrong but that is a huge advantage regardless of the count. Why shuffle track or cut to the high cards. Think about the above posts and tell me why casinos that the person is playing does not allow re-split aces.
Ok , ok.. What does your laminated BS chart say to do when you have 2 aces?
Ok , ok.. What does your laminated BS chart say to do when you have 2 aces?
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The only hands that you would not hit on are A8, A9, A10. Also, if there are more low cards, you will bust less. If there are more high cards, you are at the advantage with (((( 4 ))))) aces on the table.