2-1 blackjack special

#1
In my state there is a local gambling paper that usually comes out around the first of the month but you can never be sure which day it will show up....anyway back when I was a coupon whore I would go around to the casinos every 4 hours or so just waiting to see when it came out...well I'm not so dedicated anymore but I still try to check everyday...anyway I looked for about 5 days and then for whatever reason forgot to look for two days...as luck would have it I'm headed to a friends house to play some video games and we drive by a casino and run in for the paper...we're sittin there playing vids and I stumble across 2:1 HOLY SHIT!!!!!! (it had been running 4 days already 10am to 3 and 10 pm till 2) it was 5pm when we found out and we had very little cash on us suddenly it became a mad dash to cash out a bunch of chips we were holding and I ran home to grab the 15K I had sitting there (the rest of our money was in the bank and this was a holliday weekend) we ended up with about 50K in cash and ran to grab our seats hoping that the promo was still running...we got there around 8 and didn't see any known APs also the DD game was empty (not our first choice with all the shuffling but the thought of covering all 7 spots appealed to us) the one shoe game was packed with ploppies... we flat bet quarters til 10 and finally got dealt a BJ "don't I get 2:1" "not on pitch only on shoe" SHIT!!!!! I color up my 1,600 in green and my friend just shoves his greens (about a G) in his pocket and runs to the shoe game I look over and there is now a known AP on third betting 3 spots and 3 other APs standing behind him and my friend so I just go step outside to call an outta state friend and tell him the tale..anyway I come back in and my friend says get your ass over here they will only let me bet 3 hands...in amazement I run over there and sure enough there is one open spot and none of the other APs are playing..I later found out the other APs had just found out about the promo and only had about 3K between them at the time of the promo so they just pooled banks for one night...the table is just killing us and the guy on third gets down to about 60 bucks and drops to one hand..I tell my friend to scoot over so I can cover 3 spots and this almost causes a fight...I tell the guy as soon as you make some money back I will give you your spots back but there's no sense in wasting them and we come to a truce...luckily (or unluckily) for me he quickly taps out and runs off to try to round up more cash...after he leaves we end up playing 6 spots for 4 hours and buy in for over15K in the process twords the end we make a comeback and end up down 5,225 also during this time another counter comes in to play the lone third base spot and bets 5 dollars a hand counting the cards and slowing the game we keep trying to speed him up but to no avail....the next morning after no sleep we arrive in the parking lot at 6:30 to hold our spot...finally at 9am the doors open for business but the pit doesn't open til 10...we sit there on the one BJ table til they bring the cards to open it up and tell us we need to stand up...(keep in mind we have been here 3.5 hours and physicly seated at the table for 45 minutes) I am about 5 feet away leaning against the wall when they give the OK and some 60 year old man wearing a fake mustache who just got there 5 minutes ago shoulder blocks me as I am sitting down knocking me out of my chair and takes my spot... if it wasn't 2:1 I would have knocked him the f*** out...he decides to play 20 a hand while his wife plays 10... He THINKS he is an AP and is not just a ploppy..anyway I only get 2 spots while my friend gets 3 the old man constantly tries to lay on an act by touching the cards and chips putting the double down money on top etc.. and the worst thing is he would only buy in 20 at a time just slowing the f*** out of the game...I had eaten McDonald's for breakfast and had some of the worst smelling gas I have ever had so I just kept laying them on this guy about every 3 minutes for 5 hours..he paid a heavy price for taking my spot..the dealers were getting mad but they didn't know who it was and my friend actually thought the dudes wife had crapped her pants..after an hour or so the casino decides to open another table and my friend jumps ship I spread to 3 spots and another whinny counter jumps in and takes 2..we end up losing another 875 on this shift..the rest of the story gets blurry as I was not sleeping during this time (I got an hour and a half sleep in 5 days) but we met a lot of APs we had never seen and finally got to talk to a bunch of locals we recognized but never talked to... The floor seemed to know exactly what was going on and treated us exceptionally well saying if the owners wont listen to us and want to give away free money why shouldn't we treat you good you are all betting table max anything you need just let us know..the rest of the promo reminds me of what I have read about the AC experiment in the 80s everyone just talked out loud and open about counting and games across the country and ups and downs and funny stories (we were all pinned as counters all ready so what the hell) Defiantly the most fun I have ever had playing this game...the house was still up for the first 6 days but then everybody started emptying the racks I had several 10K runs in 20 minutes only to lose back 11K in the next shoe or the last 15 minutes of the night I just kept splitting 4 times on one hand 3 on another doubling etc and losing 14-1500 a round..I would hear from the other players about how bad my friend was doing and about how he had 18 black chips riding on one round (starting with 3x100) cuz of splits and doubles and how he was getting the biggest ass kickin any of them had ever seen...anyway when it was all said and done we played 35 hours total (I thought it was 32 but I just re
counted) playing mostly 6 spots (one night we paid a friend to play a 7th spot) and I was up 2,200 but my friend dumped just over 15K and he ended up the only player to lose during this promo (I figured our win shold have been around 9K a day so this was a terrible run) ...I went in a few days later to cash out (they were paying everyone in 20s the last day) and talked to a the pit boss they were still really cool and told me anytime I'm hungry to just stop by and they would write me a comp weather I play or not and also just to come play and they wont sweat me as long as I take it easy on them and went on to say "%*@$%" (another local AP name witheld to protect the innocent) was in here this morning and won 1,500 a couple of days later I took her up on her offer and she was very nice to me and didn't sweat me one bit although my -1200 might have had something to do with it...she told me the house lost 50K (so the other counters made over 60) and she still can't believe they did it...
 

V-man

Active Member
#3
2-1 player's edge?

What's the player's edge flat betting 2-1 and playing BS?
It's strange that the casino would tolerate counters like you described.
The idea of promo is to attract ploppies of course not counters.
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
#4
Edge

In the long run, 2-1 pays 1/2 unit more every 21 hands (since a blackjack pays 3-2, and the frequency is about 1 per 21 hands). This adds about 2.38% to your (the player's) side. So, the player's edge is 2.38% - (house edge playing BS).
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
#5
I miss the 2:1 payoffs =(

> It's strange that the casino would tolerate counters like you described.
> The idea of promo is to attract ploppies of course not counters.

Terribles tried a 2:1 payout on suited BJs last year. I saw quite a few people cleaning up, and a few unlucky (but skillfull) souls tap out. It was quite a scene.

Remember when Binion's used to have that at X-mas time?

Where have the good times gone?

-Sonny-
 
#6
2:1 payoffs at Christmas

Maybe Harrahs will try to resurrect the tradition by offering generous 3:2 payoffs on their 6:5 games on Christmas day
 

gehrig

Well-Known Member
#7
first time i was paid 2:1 during christmas week...

lots of years ago, i bet for the dealer the next hand. she said "you thought i overpaid you on that last hand". i did.

only problem with that bonus was that it was only good up to $5 wagers. a $6 bet would be paid $9.
 
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