5-200

[aslan]

whats the best strategy for low stakes backcounting, team, or play solo?

I will answer your question as if it were a serious question. I will assume by low stakes you mean a $5 min game.

If you are playing for any stakes, back counting will provide you with the best odds for your money and you don't have to split it with anyone else, nor do you have to cover the -EV of spotters, if you use them. But EMFH team play will allow you to play from a shared bankroll, and so cut down on your overall variance.

But for team play, where will you find another player who is willing enter into a team agreement for low stakes? Good luck on that. If you do, it will be good training possibly for later more lucrative ventures.

And finally, back counting is playing solo so if you have an opportunity to back count, why would you not do so? If you don't have much money to gamble with, your low stakes will be just as precious to you as high stakes to another individual, so you should give yourself the very best chance of winning, and back counting will do just that.

 

[Gambler23]

How do you know my question was serious? Except for that fact that back counting is somewhat strange to watch someone play. The casinos dont mind to much if you jump in during the middle of a game then leave and go to another table?

 

[Thunder]

Play all HiLo with all indexes is $.13 a round and RoR of 4.5% w/ $10k
no indexes is $.08 a round and 15% RoR

5 - neutral/negative
10 +1, 25 +2, 50 +3, 100 + 4

You need to cite what penetration these results are based on.

 

[PonyPrincess]

You need to cite what penetration these results are based on.

I don't NEED to do anything, haha.

But he didn't say so I just assumed the worst and put it ~70%

 

[Gambler23]

They deal 91% out at least at $5 dollar tables.

 

[PonyPrincess]

They deal 91% out at least at $5 dollar tables.

$.46/round wong out -3 $5 negative to +1, +2: 25, +3:50, +4:100, +5:200

RoR 6% (w/ $10k), that's with I-18 indexes

 

[Gambler23]

How much do you lose for each person added to the table if your at a table by yourself vs up to six players?

 

[Bacchante]

I posted this b4 regarding playing a game- the best guide for me when sizing up a game as to playability is figuring the house edge based on what the rules are and then using the Snyder Profit Index, which also takes into account the penetration and number of players. Here's a link to it (Dead link: http://plazcasino.com/2). It doesn't show the math involved but I believe Arnold Snyder Btw, it's on Part II of the site that shows you to to calculate the index.

 

[Gambler23]

Which indexes are more correct or are these the same?

15 v. 10 and A.................. 15 v. 10

16 v. 9 and A................... 16 v. A

 

[aslan]

Which indexes are more correct or are these the same?

15 v. 10 and A.................. 15 v. 10

16 v. 9 and A................... 16 v. A

There is no correct or more correct. Indexes are count-dependent.

 

[Gambler23]

Say the count is +4 and +5 for those indexes?

Ive seen a couple post about the over under 13 bet. One said only bet on it at a true count of 5 or higher? Another said a true count of three or higher? What is the max bet for this side bet...you can make the same bet as your hi low count bet? Can you use hi low count for this or should you use a seperate count?