Advantage lost by wrong BS?
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zengrifter
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Negligible - 2D BS is fine for 6-8D. zg
If you use one BS for all games the loss in EV is like .01 or .02 percent. So I would recommend learning one BS. Actually, learn one set for DAS, and one set for no DAS.
Learn one set of BS rules and play'em perfect!
I only play the DAS games. I have good will power when it comes to picking my blackjack games. I DO NOT (NEVER EVER, like against my religion or something) play 6:5, Double on 10 an 11 only, and no DAS. I pretty much stick to DD pitch with the good rules. I have been known to play a 6 or 8 deck game with good rules, but only as damage control, while passing time with my wife, or while waiting for my wife or friends.
That is why I raised the question. I leaned multideck BS first and then switched to two deck BS. There are only a few differences in the two and I recognized that. It did not appear to be a big difference. As little as I play the 6 and 8 decks, and the fact that when I play the 6 and 8 deck it is usually for $5 min, I figure it won't cost me too much.
I only play the DAS games. I have good will power when it comes to picking my blackjack games. I DO NOT (NEVER EVER, like against my religion or something) play 6:5, Double on 10 an 11 only, and no DAS. I pretty much stick to DD pitch with the good rules. I have been known to play a 6 or 8 deck game with good rules, but only as damage control, while passing time with my wife, or while waiting for my wife or friends.
That is why I raised the question. I leaned multideck BS first and then switched to two deck BS. There are only a few differences in the two and I recognized that. It did not appear to be a big difference. As little as I play the 6 and 8 decks, and the fact that when I play the 6 and 8 deck it is usually for $5 min, I figure it won't cost me too much.
SystemsTrader
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Why not learn them all. If you have trouble remembering all the basic changes photo copy the basic strategy charts in the back of Blackjack Attack and keep them in your back pocket or car and if you come across different rules in casinos simply refer to it. Every little bit of edge is to your advantage.
Why learn BS for neg adv games?
As I said, I don't play all the games. I play only one game consistently. The other game only occasionally. I have no desire to play any other game with less than what I call "good rules." Am I right, if I don't play a lower advantage game now, why should I start? Is there something that I'm missing?
As I said, I don't play all the games. I play only one game consistently. The other game only occasionally. I have no desire to play any other game with less than what I call "good rules." Am I right, if I don't play a lower advantage game now, why should I start? Is there something that I'm missing?
I like to eek out every edge possible, but .01%, come on!
This is excellent advice. Be sure to learn surrender and any related index plays under your system.
SystemsTrader
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Like you I play pretty much one game consistently, multi-deck shoe S17, DAS. This is the only game I have memorized. On occasion I do play other games and when I do I simply refer to my strategy charts. Recently I played a H17 game which required three basic changes. It only took 2 seconds to memorize and turned out to be worth it me as I ended doubling a hand which I wouldn't have with the S17 basic. So yes .01% is worth it to me.
Cardcounter
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It depends on the mistakes that you make!!!
The least costly mistake is standing on 13 when the dealer shows a two! It costs you about 1% when you make this play! The most costly play is failling to split 2 8's when the dealer shows a 7 it will cost you 57-63% the 57 is if you hit and the 63 is if you stand!!! If you have $10 bet not spliting will cost you an average of $5.70-$6.30!!! Most plays will cost you some where in between that when you make the wrong play! The average wrong play cost the player 5%!! That's 50 cents on a $10 bet!!!
The least costly mistake is standing on 13 when the dealer shows a two! It costs you about 1% when you make this play! The most costly play is failling to split 2 8's when the dealer shows a 7 it will cost you 57-63% the 57 is if you hit and the 63 is if you stand!!! If you have $10 bet not spliting will cost you an average of $5.70-$6.30!!! Most plays will cost you some where in between that when you make the wrong play! The average wrong play cost the player 5%!! That's 50 cents on a $10 bet!!!