any skills to memory many sets of keycards?
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zengrifter
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Here are some MEMORY RESOURCES
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-Hi beyondbj, you are a very insisted with the aces, my respect.
It depends how many one could remember, more importend is how many keys
someone could remember and contoll when they are coming in the last
round.
All about 20 to 30 are possible in 2 rounds over 8-10 hours with breaks,
coffee, chocolate ore else, no alcoholics.
A six deck shoe with 1.5 decks pen has 18 seen aces, the problem is to
catch them all.
To catch them is as difficult as to remember, very fast eyes, a trained brain,
no alcoholics all your live ( who could do that, is that the live ?) ,
sex only sometimes.
Ben Pridmore, UK can remember a deck of cards in incriments of 2 cards
in 26 seconds, try to break his world record.
here is his forum :--------
This is the main English-language forum: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/memorysports/
(British, not US, but still English-language)
Ben
I don't answer messages.
elhombre
something for beyondbjVerfasst am: Fr 26. Jun 2009, 14:31 Titel: English: Speed-Card-Steno
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Hi,
I tried to invent a new speedcardsystem.
Speed-Card-Steno:
Motivation:
to reduce the complexity of the visualised objects, while giving meaning to feelings and colours at the same time, while also creating the possibility of combining several cards into one true object.
..a work in development. it's just an "alpha"version.
Each of the 13 diferent cards has got a simple symbol. At best it resembles the Number or picture on the card, so that there is no real effort of translating it.
There are 13*13 different combinations for two cards, which represents a big card system with 169 combinations instead of 52*51 = 2652.
Opposed to normal translations like "elefant" and "cat", these translations are shapes and forms so they naturally blend into whole objects.
So a peace symbol combines a circle an 3 lines.
chosen colours:
club = black
spade = blue
diamon = yellow
heart = red
combinations come from the colour-circle => red + yellow => orange
it is important to remember the order of the colours in the picture, otherwise you confuse the order of the colours of the cards.
Beginners could only memorize half the deck with the speed-card-steno and translate the other 26 in a normal way.
This way the other half of the cards gives clues about which colourcombinations are still possible.
Another simple version is to only memorize pairs of cards when both cards are of the same type, like spade + spade.
of course it is possible to combine 3, 4 or 5 or more cards into one object.
How to reconstruct the order:
create rules for picture orientation:
example:
1. the first card object gets created below the second object
2. the first card is bigger than the second card
The colours get memorized with feeling and colourvisualisation.
use feelings that naturally resemble the colours!
there are only a few different feelings that we need:
red: wrath / warmth
orange: happyness/home
yellow: sour(lemon)/sun
green: hope/forest
blue: cold / calm
pink: royal/ gay
remember the orientation of your pictures.
if you got heart + diamond in this order, you could memorize it as orange, while remembering that the orientation goes from bottom to top.
the direction of the orientationarrow of the picture is related to the colour circle, it goes clockwise.
a car with yellow wheels and a red carbody would be memorized as orange, with an arrow going from bottom to top.
a car with red wheels and a yellow carbody would have an orientationarrow from top to bottom.
Combinations with black get visualised as the other colour with an arrow either going to or away from the object.. more like a feeling of moving towards or away from it.
Arrow points towards the object if black was the first colour,
it points away from the object if black was the second colour.
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a few other system ideas:
the small journey-system
a journey with 52 locations. Each location represents a card. You remember your journey along the locations in the order of the cards.
Remember the path you take. Maybe connect it with a long rope.
The big journey system:
do the same with one location for each 2 cards.
funny way to use 2600 locations for each speedcardsrun x)
The colour-major-cards-system:
system to memorize combined number cards(inclubind ace= 0)
example:
3 of hearts, 5 of hearts => 35 red => M L red => a red Male
2 of hearts, 5 of diamonds, 4 of diamonds, 9 of diamonds
25 orange orientationarrow going from bottom to top
N L => Nelly Furtado in orange
49 => rabbit in yellow
I am looking forward to hearing your feedback
I tried the steno-system and memorized a pack of cards with only a few errors in 4 minutes.
With my normal translations I can do that in 1:30 (on good days ^^).
but it was also one of my first tries with the new system idea and I did not collect the 169 combinations yet. [/img]
elhombre
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Hi,
I tried to invent a new speedcardsystem.
Speed-Card-Steno:
Motivation:
to reduce the complexity of the visualised objects, while giving meaning to feelings and colours at the same time, while also creating the possibility of combining several cards into one true object.
..a work in development. it's just an "alpha"version.
Each of the 13 diferent cards has got a simple symbol. At best it resembles the Number or picture on the card, so that there is no real effort of translating it.
There are 13*13 different combinations for two cards, which represents a big card system with 169 combinations instead of 52*51 = 2652.
Opposed to normal translations like "elefant" and "cat", these translations are shapes and forms so they naturally blend into whole objects.
So a peace symbol combines a circle an 3 lines.
chosen colours:
club = black
spade = blue
diamon = yellow
heart = red
combinations come from the colour-circle => red + yellow => orange
it is important to remember the order of the colours in the picture, otherwise you confuse the order of the colours of the cards.
Beginners could only memorize half the deck with the speed-card-steno and translate the other 26 in a normal way.
This way the other half of the cards gives clues about which colourcombinations are still possible.
Another simple version is to only memorize pairs of cards when both cards are of the same type, like spade + spade.
of course it is possible to combine 3, 4 or 5 or more cards into one object.
How to reconstruct the order:
create rules for picture orientation:
example:
1. the first card object gets created below the second object
2. the first card is bigger than the second card
The colours get memorized with feeling and colourvisualisation.
use feelings that naturally resemble the colours!
there are only a few different feelings that we need:
red: wrath / warmth
orange: happyness/home
yellow: sour(lemon)/sun
green: hope/forest
blue: cold / calm
pink: royal/ gay
remember the orientation of your pictures.
if you got heart + diamond in this order, you could memorize it as orange, while remembering that the orientation goes from bottom to top.
the direction of the orientationarrow of the picture is related to the colour circle, it goes clockwise.
a car with yellow wheels and a red carbody would be memorized as orange, with an arrow going from bottom to top.
a car with red wheels and a yellow carbody would have an orientationarrow from top to bottom.
Combinations with black get visualised as the other colour with an arrow either going to or away from the object.. more like a feeling of moving towards or away from it.
Arrow points towards the object if black was the first colour,
it points away from the object if black was the second colour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
a few other system ideas:
the small journey-system
a journey with 52 locations. Each location represents a card. You remember your journey along the locations in the order of the cards.
Remember the path you take. Maybe connect it with a long rope.
The big journey system:
do the same with one location for each 2 cards.
funny way to use 2600 locations for each speedcardsrun x)
The colour-major-cards-system:
system to memorize combined number cards(inclubind ace= 0)
example:
3 of hearts, 5 of hearts => 35 red => M L red => a red Male
2 of hearts, 5 of diamonds, 4 of diamonds, 9 of diamonds
25 orange orientationarrow going from bottom to top
N L => Nelly Furtado in orange
49 => rabbit in yellow
I am looking forward to hearing your feedback
I tried the steno-system and memorized a pack of cards with only a few errors in 4 minutes.
With my normal translations I can do that in 1:30 (on good days ^^).
but it was also one of my first tries with the new system idea and I did not collect the 169 combinations yet. [/img]
elhombre
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Phillip Marlowe
New Member
I use my phone. I move away from the table text them in an sit down. Usually wait for an easy combination such as Queen, Queen or 6, 7 clubs.
At the end of the shoe read your text and wait for the keycards. It's also easier if you have a partner to rememer a couple or do alternate shoes.
At the end of the shoe read your text and wait for the keycards. It's also easier if you have a partner to rememer a couple or do alternate shoes.
Hi stophon, there are 51 x 51 combinations of cards , could you manage that with chips ?stophon said:
At my beginning I was eighter to lazy or my brain couldn't memorize all the
keys you need, to be successful.
And I wrote them down on a small paper, that cost's me 2 years.
IMHO I was to lazy to torture my head. But now it's like counting, when I see
any keys I see the picture, put that on the routpoint and remember.
Because you must controll the outcoming cards, for that you must know the
keycards extremly well by heart.
With dayly training,It's like a seventh sence.
The human brain is like a muscle, someone who isn't lazy ,could train that.
Beside it makes fun to make hard brainwork.
elhombre
Automatic Monkey
Banned
Bridge order
One thing that helps me keep track of suits is being a bridge player. In bridge the suits have a rank too, which is (top to bottom) Spades, Hearts, Diamonds Clubs. It also happens to be in reverse alphabetical order.
So when I am learning keys (single-key) I picture the spades in the top row, the hearts underneath and so on.
One thing that helps me keep track of suits is being a bridge player. In bridge the suits have a rank too, which is (top to bottom) Spades, Hearts, Diamonds Clubs. It also happens to be in reverse alphabetical order.
So when I am learning keys (single-key) I picture the spades in the top row, the hearts underneath and so on.
