anyone familiar with the old 2009 novo FLYING blackjack machine? the one without a live dealer? not the other versions

[sevencard2003]

certainly seems beatable, unless this indian casino is cheating, i was told to watch for that, and that maybe it would lie about the shuffle. seems to be every 4 decks of an 8 deck shoe, because i counted a few different times how many cards were being used up before the shuffle came up. stands on ALL 17s and lets u split up to 4 hands. and pays for 6 cards without busting and even pays 3-2 or 3-1 depending on if suited or not on 678. and no side bet needed. one thing it wont allow is surrender or doubling on soft totals with an ace. but then again u also get another 20c back on every $100 u run thru it in points back once u earned a higher level card.

i cant imagine why out of the 12 terminals available almost every one is tied up with asians playing baccarrat or roulette. the BJ seems far more valuable.

 

[johndoe]

Does it actually show the discard tray or shoe, or clearly indicate the shuffle? I'd be concerned it was really CSM but just showing the shuffle for aesthetics.

 

[sevencard2003]

it certainly appears to shuffle then. the count tends to go up as much as down and about the same amount of positive as negative shoes. even without the shuffle, its still close to 100%

i think these machines must of been popular years ago, so im surprised no one here is familiar with it