Backcounting and Wonging in

#1
I just successfully backcounted and Wonged in on the second half of a shoe for the first time ever, winning a little money. I don't know why I've never done it before, but I liked it! It was a nice feeling knowing I was playing almost the whole remainder of the shoe with an advantage. But I wouldn't have been able to do it if it weren't for a lady leaving in the middle of the shoe.

Is it OK to do this at a casino you go to regularly? Do pit bosses get suspicious when you hover over a table just watching, and then jump into a seat and start playing part way through a shoe, only to leave at the end of the shoe?
 
#2
I tried wonging in once, It seemed to obvious after back counting 3 shoes without an opportunity. I decided to use wonging out and it worked great. I just wong out now. No need to kill the great games.
 
#3
madscout1996 said:
I just successfully backcounted and Wonged in on the second half of a shoe for the first time ever, winning a little money. I don't know why I've never done it before, but I liked it! It was a nice feeling knowing I was playing almost the whole remainder of the shoe with an advantage. But I wouldn't have been able to do it if it weren't for a lady leaving in the middle of the shoe.

Is it OK to do this at a casino you go to regularly? Do pit bosses get suspicious when you hover over a table just watching, and then jump into a seat and start playing part way through a shoe, only to leave at the end of the shoe?
I do it all the time, nobody cares. Just make sure you jump in at a time when other players hqve lost a few hands in a row so they wont complain.
 
#4
ningtong88 said:
I do it all the time, nobody cares. Just make sure you jump in at a time when other players hqve lost a few hands in a row so they wont complain.
No no no! If you have the advantage, play! Don't even think about anybody else, just have your profit in mind.
 

Shoofly

Well-Known Member
#5
Wonging in doesn't work well for me in small places or at non-busy times. I pick a larger place at a busy time (Friday and Saturday nights), when many tables are open. In fact some of the places I play are near major sports venues. I go after games dressed in team colors. Most of the patrons are younger and have been drinking (mostly not drunk; just happy). Wandering around the floor attracts no attention.
 

Zach Black

Active Member
#6
wonging

There's nothing like back counting a full table and jumping in as a defeated player leaves during positive counts.

Many of my most profitiable sessions start when the dealer clears the table with a six card 21 mid shoe and the count has progressed way past the optimal wong-in point.
 
#7
When I jump in during the middle people get very offended but sometimes i do it anyway. I was wondering can you beat a two deck game playing negative counts?
 
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BJgenius007

Well-Known Member
#8
Gambler23 said:
When I jump in during the middle people get very offended but sometimes i do it anyway. I was wondering can you beat a two deck game playing negative counts?
Of course you can. If your spread is high enough, you can beat any game, let alone a double deck!
 
#9
the spread is 8 units max. No double after split, double any two, good penetration, H17 0-4 players or would you rather play a crowded 4-7 players 5-200 table same rule 6 deck?
 
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BJgenius007

Well-Known Member
#10
Gambler23 said:
the spread is 8 units max. No double after split, double any two, good penetration, H17 0-4 players or would you rather play a crowded 4-7 players 5-200 table same rule 6 deck?
No double after split is a terrible rule. My guess is that you have to spread 16 to 1 to overcome that.
 
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