Basic strategy question

[fupacounter]

for a game with the rules of:

six decks, Dealer hits soft 17, double any two cards,Double after split, no surrender, dealer peaks.

my hand is two aces and dealers is a three. I split the aces. on one ace i get a 5. so it can be a 16 or a 6. do i hit the 6 or do i stay with the 16?? i would like a reference also. i never know how to treat an ace unless its on the first hand because then it is outlined in basic strategy.

 

[shadroch]

In most games, split Aces only recieve one card so you have no option. If you do have an option, why would you think about staying with a six? You can't bust, so how does not hitting help you?

 

[21gunsalute]

for a game with the rules of:

six decks, Dealer hits soft 17, double any two cards,Double after split, no surrender, dealer peaks.

my hand is two aces and dealers is a three. I split the aces. on one ace i get a 5. so it can be a 16 or a 6. do i hit the 6 or do i stay with the 16?? i would like a reference also. i never know how to treat an ace unless its on the first hand because then it is outlined in basic strategy.

If they let you hit again then by all means hit. Why would you stand on 6? It's a free hit! That being said I don't know of any casinos that let you hit split aces more than once. I'm sure there are a few out there somewhere but none in this neck of the woods anyway.

You sound like you don't have a clue what you are doing. You obviously haven't memorized Basic Strategy yet or even understand the concept of how it works or how good hands are comprised. And you really need to be able to think for yourself before you attempt to play at a casino. It sounds like you're going to a machine gun fight armed with a broken rubber band.

 

[Leaveawinner]

for a game with the rules of:

six decks, Dealer hits soft 17, double any two cards,Double after split, no surrender, dealer peaks.

my hand is two aces and dealers is a three. I split the aces. on one ace i get a 5. so it can be a 16 or a 6. do i hit the 6 or do i stay with the 16?? i would like a reference also. i never know how to treat an ace unless its on the first hand because then it is outlined in basic strategy.

I would Double Down on the soft 16 vs. 3 if I was allowed to. Else it's a hit.

As for why I would stand on the 16. Because the previous 8 cards were not 10's or Faces. I would then be expecting a 10 to top the 2nd Ace.

I also agree with the others who say you should bone up on BS and play a few 1000 hands at home.

Otherwise i wouldn't worry about it. It's your game, your money and you are allowed to play the hands the way you want to. I know BS and many days break off for a hand looking to get a better set of cards.

 

[matt21]

hey there. at the beginning i was also confused with how to deal with aces in certain situations. i got confused when i hit my A,2 and got a 4 against dealer's 3. And I was already playing in the casino when that happened! :grin:

You should memorise the BS chart as follows - options are h, s, d and x - but the doubling goes further into ds (double, stand if you cant e.g. you can double A,7 but you cant double A,3,4 so you stand) and dh (double, hit if you cant e.g. you can double A,6 but you can't double A,2,4 so you hit). 'dh' is much more common than 'ds'. you should be able to find charts showing ds and dh if you google around a little.

if you have split aces and you can take further action then treat each hand as a new hand. so your A,5 you treat just as if you got A,5 at the outset, and then look whether you should hit, double or stand.

hope that helps a little & good luck.

 

[sabre]

As for why I would stand on the 16. Because the previous 8 cards were not 10's or Faces. I would then be expecting a 10 to top the 2nd Ace.

Is there a good reason not to ban a troll who intentionally gives bad advice to novice questions?

 

[Sonny]

Is there a good reason not to ban a troll who intentionally gives bad advice to novice questions?

I feel obligated to give a warning before I ban anyone, even familiar trolls. If Leaveawinner can't get his act together then I will ban him next time.

-Sonny-

 

[fupacounter]

hey there. at the beginning i was also confused with how to deal with aces in certain situations. i got confused when i hit my A,2 and got a 4 against dealer's 3. And I was already playing in the casino when that happened! :grin:

You should memorise the BS chart as follows - options are h, s, d and x - but the doubling goes further into ds (double, stand if you cant e.g. you can double A,7 but you cant double A,3,4 so you stand) and dh (double, hit if you cant e.g. you can double A,6 but you can't double A,2,4 so you hit). 'dh' is much more common than 'ds'. you should be able to find charts showing ds and dh if you google around a little.

if you have split aces and you can take further action then treat each hand as a new hand. so your A,5 you treat just as if you got A,5 at the outset, and then look whether you should hit, double or stand.

hope that helps a little & good luck.

thank you! that explains it a little better. i keep forgetting about D/s and D/h.

 

[Sonny]

I feel obligated to give a warning before I ban anyone, even familiar trolls. If Leaveawinner can't get his act together then I will ban him next time.

Well, that didn't take long. I had to remove several more posts already. Leaveawinner is going on a little 3-day vacation.

-Sonny-

 

[fupacounter]

you know a better way to ask my question would be:

how do you treat an ace after you have hit? example: an ace,3,4. what do you treat it as, as far as basic strategy goes? do you treat it as an ace,7 or an 8, or an 18? i guess this is the only play that basic strategy doesnt cover?? i thought it was supposed to cover every move your ever supposed to do so then there is no question.

 

[rrwoods]

you know a better way to ask my question would be:

how do you treat an ace after you have hit? example: an ace,3,4. what do you treat it as, as far as basic strategy goes? do you treat it as an ace,7 or an 8, or an 18? i guess this is the only play that basic strategy doesnt cover?? i thought it was supposed to cover every move your ever supposed to do so then there is no question.

Basic strategy does cover every move -- if you have A-3-4, you treat it "as" A-7 on most BS tables. All the doubles on the soft 18 line should say double-or-stand.

 

[daddybo]

you know a better way to ask my question would be:

how do you treat an ace after you have hit? example: an ace,3,4. what do you treat it as, as far as basic strategy goes? do you treat it as an ace,7 or an 8, or an 18? i guess this is the only play that basic strategy doesnt cover?? i thought it was supposed to cover every move your ever supposed to do so then there is no question.

You would treat A,3,4 as a soft 18 (i.e. 8 or 18) and use your BS as if it were A,7. There is a slight difference as far as the effect of removal of cards... but for your purpose you should treat it as if the 3,4 is 7. Since you won't be able to double down on the hand at this point, you should hit or stand depending on the BS chart.

Did that make sense?

-db

 

[fupacounter]

Basic strategy does cover every move -- if you have A-3-4, you treat it "as" A-7 on most BS tables. All the doubles on the soft 18 line should say double-or-stand.

i guess it makes sense to treat ace,3,4 and ace,7. i just didnt see it addressed on the basic strategy spreadsheet page. you wouldnt happened to have a reference of that would you? i have been doing the blackjack school provided by this site and i am on lesson 2

 

[rrwoods]

i guess it makes sense to treat ace,3,4 and ace,7. i just didnt see it addressed on the basic strategy spreadsheet page. you wouldnt happened to have a reference of that would you? i have been doing the blackjack school provided by this site and i am on lesson 2

Off to the left there is a link labeled "Basic Strategy Engine". It's your best friend

 

[shadroch]

Basic Strategy covers every possible move for your first two cards, and the dealers up card. It doesn't cover every possible combination of cards.