best casino rules with shoe in australia

Koz1984

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Readily available shoes? Crown, I'd say. However, most other Australian casinos have better shoe games in their VIP gaming areas (difficult to get in to) or on crowded nights, such a Friday or Saturday (difficult to find a seat).
 

georgeluc

Member
With .75 at crown i don't think i am going to try. You can win, but wouldn't it be a hassle to try and beat .75 HE. So i i was thinking save up a bigger BR and go to a casino with lower HE. Even if the place is overseas i don't mind, as long as it doesn't cost to much money on travel costs.
 

AussiePlayer

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georgeluc said:
With .75 at crown i don't think i am going to try. You can win, but wouldn't it be a hassle to try and beat .75 HE. So i i was thinking save up a bigger BR and go to a casino with lower HE. Even if the place is overseas i don't mind, as long as it doesn't cost to much money on travel costs.
Pretty much my new plan, about $2,000 return to Vegas.
 

blobnstuff

New Member
Cairns Pullman Reef Casino, 6Deck, DAS, Split Once, No Surrender, OBO.

12 Main floor tables, ($10/$20 - $500/$1000) ($50 - $2000)

Two tables before 3pm, 3rd table opens at 3pm followed by potential 4th at 5/6pm.

Their swing shift starts at 7pm instead of the usual 8pm where more tables open. Usually 8-10 tables open from 9pm-1am...

Small floor, only 2 pit managers operate the main floor total. However, the casino doesn't handle action very well as it's so small. Can only practice hit and run sessions here, can manage approx 20-25 hours per week MAX if you're playing max bets of $500 or more.

Good luck
 

StudiodeKadent

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Avoid Australian casinos. They don't deserve your money.

That said, best shoe game in Oz is Mahogany Room at Crown, but its 200 per hand minimum (i.e. rape).

Save up and go to Vegas. You can get a $10 game at the MGM Grand that has better rules than the Mahogany Room.
 

StudiodeKadent

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Koz1984 said:
What are the actual rules in the Mahogany Room? Decks used? Penetration? Thank you.
Can't say anything about pen, but from what I know...

6deck, S17, Hand-shuffle, DA2, DAS, Split to 3 hands max, nRSA, NS
 

blacklotus

New Member
Best Rules in Australia with Shoe

Hi,

In my opinion, Tasmania. Recheck the conditions on other posts.
But in Queensland they have s17, 6Deck, SP1, DAS, nRSA, OBO, Double 9,10,11. Insurance 2:1, BJ 3:2, Perfect Pairs, 5, 10, 30. Peneration can be almost less than 1-1.5, some 2decks but in general 1 to 1.5 depending on the dealer. Minimums $25 to $100, Max $2000 to $5000.
HOWEVER, you can AdPlay and hit and run. Do not bother to play professionally there. Managment and Surveilance are clued on they offer such a good game. There are occasionally shoes on the main floor.
 

blacklotus

New Member
True, tasmania has lots of heat, but its still "best" game in australia with a shoe
dunno now, read it changed to all CSMs
 

Caesar

Well-Known Member
Vegas??

StudiodeKadent said:
Avoid Australian casinos. They don't deserve your money.

That said, best shoe game in Oz is Mahogany Room at Crown, but its 200 per hand minimum (i.e. rape).

Save up and go to Vegas. You can get a $10 game at the MGM Grand that has better rules than the Mahogany Room.
The games in Vegas are poor. They have been going downhill fast for the past decade or so.
 

StudiodeKadent

Well-Known Member
AussiePlayer said:
The games in Vegas are substantially better than those in Australia!

Very true.

And I was in Vegas just recently. Good games (liberal rules S17 hand shuffle shoe games with a house edge of 0.285%) were easy to find and you could get them for $10 at the MGM Grand, and $25 at the other MGM places.

This seems like a pretty good deal to me, especially with the free booze, free cigars, and comps.
 
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