Bill Zender for President: AP videos

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bjcount

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WOW nice find.

Too much info there to publicly post IMO... if no one has found it in almost a year, maybe it should have stayed that way.

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BJQueen

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If he is posting information like this on youtube, let him continue.
He is so far off the mark its almost funny.
 
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10JQKA

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I am a beginner and even I found it hilarious. Ace tracking LOL :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I also found it pretty funny how he goes on about how long he has worked in casino's then you see he cant even come close to a decent casino dealer's riff.

I especially liked the fake shuffle how they show it from above and say you couldnt even see it was a fake shuffle then show it from the side and say now you can see its not a true shuffle. Where the **** do they think the players are going to be sat to not notice that? Stood on the table?

If any player fails to notice that, they deserve to lose their money.

TOO funny
 
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Brock Windsor

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10JQKA said:
I am a beginner and even I found it hilarious. Ace tracking LOL :laugh::laugh::laugh:

I also found it pretty funny how he goes on about how long he has worked in casino's then you see he cant even come close to a decent casino dealer's riff.

I especially liked the fake shuffle how they show it from above and say you couldnt even see it was a fake shuffle then show it from the side and say now you can see its not a true shuffle. Where the **** do they think the players are going to be sat to not notice that? Stood on the table?

If any player fails to notice that, they deserve to lose their money.

TOO funny
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The false shuffle is a cheat move, the players and dealer are in on it. It's surveillance they are trying to fool.... which would be the eye in the sky.
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10JQKA

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Brock Windsor said:
The false shuffle is a cheat move, the players and dealer are in on it. It's surveillance they are trying to fool.... which would be the eye in the sky.
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What use is cheating the eye in the sky if every player at the table can see it quite clearly, they would have to be hoping absoultely nobody on the casino floor was watching the shuffle
 
JSTAT

JSTAT

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10JQKA said:
What use is cheating the eye in the sky if every player at the table can see it quite clearly, they would have to be hoping absoultely nobody on the casino floor was watching the shuffle
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Here is a story about cheaters indicted by a federal grand jury in September 2009 for profiting off false shuffles by bribing dealers and floor personnel http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iqaGBgu-IojMDnYMW0TfCjZNy0_QD9ATUA980 (Archive copy) that fooled surveillance departments for years. These cheaters won millions of dollars knowing the order of cards at baccarat and blackjack.
 
Lonesome Gambler

Lonesome Gambler

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I've been aware of these videos for quite some time, but seeing some of the responses from the more experienced players makes me curious: are the videos "laughable" in that the techniques themselves are not as described, or is it that Zender's methods of achieving the techniques are incorrect?
 
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