Bringing Down the House vs. Busting Vegas

SPX

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Does anyone know if Bringing Down the House is supposed to be a more reliable and accurate account of real events than Busting Vegas? I'm reading BV right now and it seems to be more fictionalized and sensational but I could be wrong.
 

callipygian

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SPX said:
Does anyone know if Bringing Down the House is supposed to be a more reliable and accurate account of real events than Busting Vegas? I'm reading BV right now and it seems to be more fictionalized and sensational but I could be wrong.
I doubt either book can be classified as reliable or accurate in any way, but you're right that Busting Vegas does sound really contrived. I suspect that the first book was written with all the best stories, then they needed to top that in the sequel and had to outright fabricate a lot of stories.
 

SPX

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callipygian said:
I doubt either book can be classified as reliable or accurate in any way, but you're right that Busting Vegas does sound really contrived. I suspect that the first book was written with all the best stories, then they needed to top that in the sequel and had to outright fabricate a lot of stories.
I remember reading once something that quoted Semyon as saying that Busting Vegas contains the "essence" of his experiences. What the f--k that means, I have no idea. My guess is that the frame of BV is built on real facts but that Mezrich really took the story and ran with it.

Has anyone read any of his other books, such as Rigged or Ugly Americans?
 

callipygian

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SPX said:
I remember reading once something that quoted Semyon as saying that Busting Vegas contains the "essence" of his experiences. What the f--k that means, I have no idea.
Well, here's some idea about what "essence" means in Bringing Down The House.

In the book: The main character went to an underground Chinatown casino as a training ground. He was counting for a while when all of a sudden a sack was thrown over his head and he was beaten up. Then he was asked what the count is - it was all a setup!

In reality: A bunch of card counters saw a real-money blackjack game at a Chinatown charity event. Realizing they could beat the game easily, they cleaned out the bank. For a *cough* charity event.

In the book: The team was at the MGM Grand when a riot erupts after the Tyson-Holyfield fight. The casino changed the chips after the riot; stuck with a bag of $500 chips, the team employed a small army of strippers to go cash the chips for them.

In reality: The team was at the MGM Grand when a riot erupts after the Tyson-Holyfield fight. The casino changed the chips after the riot; the team was faced with strong questioning as they try to change out their handful of $500 chips.

In the book: A MIT janitor discovered the team's hidden stash of $100,000, and turned it into the authorities. Faced with a huge setback, the team turns on itself and begins fighting.

In reality: After a meeting, a team member left a lunch bag with ~$10,000 on a table. A MIT janitor picked it up and turned it into the school, but the team convinced a Dean that the money was theirs and they got it back.
 

SPX

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Callipygian:

I've heard some of that. Makes sense. I think you might be off a bit on the $100,000 that they lost, though. Seems I remember Mr. M himself saying on a Breaking Vegas episode that the money was turned into authorities and it took something like 6 months to get it back.
 
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callipygian said:
I doubt either book can be classified as reliable or accurate in any way, but you're right that Busting Vegas does sound really contrived. I suspect that the first book was written with all the best stories, then they needed to top that in the sequel and had to outright fabricate a lot of stories.
Sort of like the stories made up on this board.
 
#7
SPX said:
Callipygian:

I've heard some of that. Makes sense. I think you might be off a bit on the $100,000 that they lost, though. Seems I remember Mr. M himself saying on a Breaking Vegas episode that the money was turned into authorities and it took something like 6 months to get it back.

That was my impression as well.
 

callipygian

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SPX said:
I remember Mr. M himself saying on a Breaking Vegas episode that the money was turned into authorities and it took something like 6 months to get it back.
*shrug*

Beats me. I suppose someone at some point should collect up some sort of snopes.com-like article on all the claims the books make.
 

SPX

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callipygian said:
Beats me. I suppose someone at some point should collect up some sort of snopes.com-like article on all the claims the books make.
Yeah, I'd love to see a thoroughly researched article or TV program that goes through the claims one by one and uncovers the real story.
 
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