Burn card

[ricardo]

How do you count the burn card? Assume it is a 10 or just ignore it. Does it make any difference in the card counting?

 

[serious]

My method...

... is to only count the cards you see. In other words, I don't count it.

 

[Sucker]

If you can see what it is, you count it. Otherwise, you have to ignore it. Trying to count it as anything other than zero will only get you into big trouble.

 

[ricardo]

Argument

For the sake of the argument, count it or not could be significant issue especially in single deck or double deck game. Someone experience could run a computer test that count the burn card as a 10 to see if it would be a better strategy or not.

 

[sabre]

For the sake of the argument, count it or not could be significant issue especially in single deck or double deck game. Someone experience could run a computer test that count the burn card as a 10 to see if it would be a better strategy or not.

How in the hell could it possibly be better to guess the value of a card that you haven't seen?

Quiz ... what's the effective difference for a card counter among these games
(assume 2D ... not that it matters)

1) A game that cuts off 52 cards and burns 0 at the start
2) A game that cuts off 51 cards and burns 1 at the start
3) A game that cuts off 26 cards and burns 26 at the start
4) A game that cuts off 10 cards and burns 42 at the start

 

[johndoe]

For the sake of the argument, count it or not could be significant issue especially in single deck or double deck game. Someone experience could run a computer test that count the burn card as a 10 to see if it would be a better strategy or not.

If you don't know it's a 10, you have no reason to count it as such, vs. anything else. A simulation isn't necessary to know this. If you don't have information, you don't have information.

One card more information is helpful in SD, much less so in DD, and is really irrelevant in 6D.

http://www.blackjackincolor.com/cardcountingextra2.htm

 

[Automatic Monkey]

For the sake of the argument, count it or not could be significant issue especially in single deck or double deck game. Someone experience could run a computer test that count the burn card as a 10 to see if it would be a better strategy or not.

Here's a better way:

Assume that there is a 4/13 chance it will be a 10

A 1/13 chance that it will be a 9

A 1/13 chance it will be a 8

...

A 1/13 chance it will be an Ace.

 

[ArcticInferno]

I had asked a question similar to this in the past.
In Atlantic City and Connecticut, you can ask the dealer to reveal the burn card and risk suspicion.
Sometimes they'll reveal the burned card without being suspicious.
However, in a 6-deck game, the contribution of the burned card is so small that it's negligible.
For 6-deck games, ignore the burned card.
If you count it as a 10-value card, you run the risk of not betting enough when you have an edge.

 

[pooptarts92]

Sit at first base and you have a better chance of actually seeing the burn card. Some dealers down here sort of lift it at an angle and you can get a quick glimpse sometimes. It's lovely when it's a 5! (Wong Halves ftw).