Cage mistake and what would you do?

[ZeeBabar]

The other day, a losing day, I was playing a DD game, was down $1800, made up $885 before I had to leave the casino (to meet family elsewhere). I approached the cage with one $500 chip, 3 black chips and 3 Green chips plus two red chips..

There was a short line, there were 3 cashiers at work, one seemed new and had an experienced cashier standing by her side and training her. They seemed to be joking, having a good time as I walked up.

The girl puts the $500 chip, the 3 black chips, 3 Green Chips and the two red chips in a stack in front of her under a watchful eye from her trainer. She then pulls the cash drawer open, says $1385! She then counts out the money and hands it to me. As I stuff the money in my wallet, I watch her scoop the chips up, expecting her to catch her error or the trainer to catch it.

They dont. I walk away with an extra $500!

later, I thought about it, wondered what would happen to her or her trainer, whether they would see where the mistake was made and catch me on my next visit to that casino (they know me well there).

We all know of dealer pay errors but has there been cage errors such as the above and what would you do, what might happen in this case?

 

[JohnCrover]

I have seen this before, next time you go to the casino they will confront you and say, "Hey, we payed you wrong, you don't have to give the money back but if you don't end cashier and her boss are going to receive +insert punishment here+" that's what happened the time I saw It happen.

 

[hitthat16]

I’d suggest not talking about it in great detail on an open forum.

 

[KewlJ]

What an idiot! And I am not talking about the new cashier who made an honest mistake.

And Bob has discussed this. It is the same situation as a bank giving you money that is not rightfully yours. Technically it is a crime. But the wording goes something like "if you intentionally accepted". Pretty hard for them to prove you intentionally knew for this kind of amount. I mean if you accept a million dollars that is easy to prove intent.

So it is very possible when that young lady's drawer comes up short, that for that amount they will review tapes and find the error. And guess what? It is one of their regular players who plays rated, so he has been kind enough to identify himself.

One question though? Let's say nothing comes of it on your end. You are completely ok, that you almost surely cost that young lady her job?

 

[Gosha]

This happened to me at an Indian casino, they overpaid me $100. The cashier is held accountable. Once the casino realizes who the overpaid player was (reviewing tape), that player will be banned until he/she pays the money back. Security will confront you next time you visit so be prepared to pay it back. In my case I got a nice comp'd dinner at the steak house for being honest.

I imagine if you have an account/players card with them they will call/email you.

 

[ZeeBabar]

Kewlj, stop the name calling. For one, I have had employees I supervised and who made mistakes, some expensive. I did not terminate their employment. They learned from their mistakes. Second, if they ask me for the money back, I will give it back to them. I may even return and give it back to them unasked.

The OP was whether anyone had experienced this situation and how they handled it. try to respond to the OP and not the poster. It was a spontaneous decision, I walked away from the cage with the money. I am seeking how to handle this and future such situations.

I can see why you get banned from forums. Always attempting to antagonize posters. You have so much to contribute, just read a post, see what the poster is inquiring about and respond to it. Dont be so anxious to paint a poster,.

 

[johndoe]

If this is even true, just be prepared to give it back when they ask, muttering that you must not have been paying attention. Give them an out from concluding you knew about the overpay and said nothing.

And if they don't ask, then it's yours, of course. But if you're a rated player, they'll definitely know, and ask you next time you visit. No benefit from offering it up.

 

[KewlJ]

Give them an out from concluding you knew about the overpay and said nothing.

Problem is that he has already admitted that he knew about it from the second it happened, on TWO different forums! Just like he confirmed on BOTH forums, not once but multiple times that the entry in OSN was him. Hense the conclusion...he is an idiot!

And I am sorry if that offends Zee and he thinks I am "picking on him", but he continues to repeatedly post idiotic things that are damaging to himself and others, while asking for the help and opinion of experienced players. He repeatedly asks for our help and then spits in our face, by doing just the opposite. What a freaking idiot!

And worse of all and what really makes me mad, is some of his craziness could have a negative effect on newer players reading. Not this incident, particularly, but when he repeatedly recommends newer players play rated, when experienced players have pointed out the negatives of doing so repeatedly, and he himself has paid the negative consequences of this bad and wrong decision. And yet he still recommends playing rated to newer players!

It is to the point that almost EVERTHING he says or posts is either wrong, or just something that shouldn't be discussed on public forum.

 

[Hell'nBack]

I had a dealer mistake recently. Got pushed on a max bet that I lost. The EITS never caught it and I'm still good to play there. Hurray!

 

[mcallister3200]

Y’all should quit getting all worked up about this hypothetical piece of fictional narrative. What are the odds a twist of this same story happens again to zee in 2-3 years and gets posted as a “new” question to a message board? 90%?

 

[21forme]

Problem is that he has already admitted that he knew about it from the second it happened, on TWO different forums!

Bingo!

I have had employees I supervised

Talk about the blind leading the blind...

 

[JohnCrover]

I think Zee and KewlJ need to have a Skype call to discuss their differences. It would save a lot of time wasted over the forums.

 

[21forme]

The problem is Zee. He thrives on the attention he creates by repeatedly posting idiocy on gambling and Nissan forums. He needs therapy.

 

[LC Larry]

...The OP was whether anyone had experienced this situation and how they handled it. try to respond to the OP and not the poster. It was a spontaneous decision, I walked away from the cage with the money. I am seeking how to handle this and future such situations...

That's fine and dandy, but you should NEVER give exact details!

 

[Hell'nBack]

If u want good will from you taking extra money. Call the shift manager, tell them u caught the mistake when u got home ( wait till the shift u play) ask them to be transferred to cage supervisor and then tell the error. You will be loved for this.

I actually tried that once. Afterward, I tipped the dealer so there could be no backtracking. But weeks later, I still received the royal boot.

 

[BoSox]

If u want good will from you taking extra money. Call the shift manager, tell them u caught the mistake when u got home ( wait till the shift u play) ask them to be transferred to cage supervisor and then tell the error. You will be loved for this.

All of this would backfire quickly on Zee. After thanking him and telling him how he is such an honest person, Zee will say by the way I just happen to be in OSN. Is it possible you could take care of that for me, and get my name out of there as it was really a wrong decision by a casino anyway? As you already know I only play socially.

 

[ZeeBabar]

Kewlj, will you stop being paranoid and trying to get everyone paranoid. As I have repeatedly stated, I played entirely rated for 3 plus years. Nothing happened except for about 100 comped nights, 150+ comped meals in Law Vegas, Biloxi, Tunic a etc. I also have offers I did not take up from LA and KC.

I got put on OSN at a casino, nothing to do with forums. Two weeks after being placed on OSN, I flew to Las Vegas and was comped a room by Mlife. I played, both rated and anonymously, for 3-4 days in Law Vegas with no issues. Fact is that one casino raised my players card to a higher tier level.

I still go and play every day at local casinos. Only one takes counter measures when they spot me, usually only noticing me 20-30 minutes into a session.

I will be in PA next month, Biloxi too.

A bunch of prose who have not played rated in a decade are advising folks about players card and calling me names because I am proof that they are full of shit. NOTHING so far makes me concerned about OSN, even less that casinos are camping on forums reading your advice and identifying a two bit counter like me. Sheeet! You play in Las Vegas, you talk about stores in your rotation, advise and mentor folks and make a whole lot more than I do, the casinos are better off worrying about you than a small time geezer like me.

I posted the same post on another forum. They were more mature. Their responses Address the OP, not to after the poster.

 

[KewlJ]

This just proves that you have learned nothing.

 

[ZeeBabar]

This just proves that you have learned nothing.

Learning is through both, history and experience. It has NOT been a tragic mistake to play rated. As far as your concerns about explicit posts, perhaps you can relax. It does not appear that casino executives are reading this post and will jump into action over a small time recreational card counter who won $20k from some 50 casinos over 12 months and 250 plus hours (of $40 a session) in one year in his life.

Perhaps you can be more open and less paranoid.

 

[BoSox]

Perhaps you can be more open and less paranoid.

I am sure KewlJ is very happy you are now giving him recommendations to improve his overall EV percentages, through comps, and then opening up himself more and informing all of the internet world about every experience. ZeeBabar you really are a piece of work.