Card tags and double counting

[yesiamred]

Greetings,

Does anyone in addition to keeping track of the card tags, i.e., Hi-lo … +1, 0, -1 also keep a count of each individual card count as they are dealt out?

Example 4-decks=208 cards.
3 players at the table plus dealers up card so now the double count is 196 (not counting burn card unless it is a known or seen)
Player one receives 3, 7, player two dealt K, 5, player three dealt 2,2, and dealer’s up card is 10. Running count is now +2 with 196 cards remaining in shoe and so on and so on.

I find it easier to have and know the exact number of cards in order to multiply for true count conversions. I had issues with deck estimation and the whole true count conversion that came with it. Granted it has been painful to learn and put into practice but it feels quite natural now.

My question is… does anyone else double count and do they find ease and success in using it?

 

[blackjack avenger]

You Poor Tortured Soul

If you can actually keep 2 counts may I make a few suggestions and thoughts?

If using hi lo, go to a higher level count.
Being off on TC conversions does not warrant what you are doing, does not matter much for betting or indice use. Do you use any bet camo? Then that kills your precision anyway, but no big deal.
You could keep an A side count to improve PE and ins.
You could keep an ins count.
You can just use hi lo and RELAX:cat:

You are double counting but no where near double value. The above would be better, but still not double value.

:joker::whip:
good cards

 

[yesiamred]

If you can actually keep 2 counts may I make a few suggestions and thoughts?

If using hi lo, go to a higher level count.
Being off on TC conversions does not warrant what you are doing, does not matter much for betting or indice use. Do you use any bet camo? Then that kills your precision anyway, but no big deal.
You could keep an A side count to improve PE and ins.
You could keep an ins count.
You can just use hi lo and RELAX:cat:

You are double counting but no where near double value. The above would be better, but still not double value.

:joker::whip:
good cards

Thanks, yeah the double counting is almost natural now. So much easier for me than trying to estimate the decks. I do keep track of aces using my feet and take insurance at +4. I am checking out a two level system at this time for using in the o/u 13 game as I hear there's good money on the sidebets:grin:
Learn, conquer and master one challenge at a time:whip:

 

[blackjack avenger]

On the right track

I forgot to mention unbalanced counts, not my area.

Perhaps a high level unbalanced count? You will win more with less effort.