casino advantage

[Luis Veiga]

Could someone help me to calculate the house's initial advantage for this game:

8 decks;

75% penetration;

The dealer stays at 17 soft;

Duplicate any card (two);

Double after split Ok, except AA that split gets only one card;

late surrender;

Offer insurance;

 

[DSchles]

Can you explain what you mean by duplicate any card (two)? Does this refer to doubling on any two-card holding? How many split hands may you have in total?

Note that 75% penetration and insurance have no effect on the initial house edge.

Don

 

[Luis Veiga]

Yes, to doubling on any two-card holding.
4 split hands in total.
Dealer Peeks (US Style).
Split AA receives only one letter

 

[DSchles]

House edge off the top is 0.43%.

Don

 

[Dummy]

This site has a HE calculator somewhere. I will let someone else point it out or you can find it on your own.

 

[Luis Veiga]

https://www.blackjackinfo.com/blackjack-basic-strategy-engine/?numdecks=8&soft17=s17&dbl=all&das=yes&surr=ls&peek=yes

In the site calculator is .39
Is the difference in the AA that separate receives only one letter?

 

[DSchles]

https://www.blackjackinfo.com/blackjack-basic-strategy-engine/?numdecks=8&soft17=s17&dbl=all&das=yes&surr=ls&peek=yes

In the site calculator is .39
Is the difference in the AA that separate receives only one letter?

I'm very sorry. I didn't see the late surrender. My fault. Correct value is 0.356%.

It would be helpful if, for the site calculator, they explained that this isn't the traditional off-the-top house edge but rather one obtained by dealing down to the stop card and factoring in the cut-card effect.

Don

 

[Midwest Player]

I'm very sorry. I didn't see the late surrender. My fault. Correct value is 0.356%.

It would be helpful if, for the site calculator, they explained that this isn't the traditional off-the-top house edge but rather one obtained by dealing down to the stop card and factoring in the cut-card effect.

Don

This calculator says 0.374%
https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/resourcespage.php?do=edgepage

 

[Dummy]

I haven't looked at this calculator since the site reopened. I remember it as having a lot more options and a different format.

 

[DSchles]

This calculator says 0.374%
https://www.blackjacktheforum.com/resourcespage.php?do=edgepage

Also using the CCE and not off-the-top. Note that the CCE can change according to penetration, which is one of the reasons why researchers prefer the off-the-top value. You don't get a different number for every level of penetration, because penetration doesn't matter, and comparisons can always be apples-to-apples.

Don