Casino Stole my winnings please help
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Come on now, you know certain tribes have sold their souls for casinos. They have expelled their elders and profaned their sacred for money. I do not expect honorable treatment from any tribe that is centered around a casino.
Legitimate tribal enterprises are to be respected, but casinos are not in that category. They exist to take my money, and I choose to instead take theirs.
Legitimate tribal enterprises are to be respected, but casinos are not in that category. They exist to take my money, and I choose to instead take theirs.
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I, on the other hand, do expect honorable treatment from all my business dealings. Does it always happen, no. Should it, yes.
That being said, I agree with AM about tribes selling their souls, expelling their elders, changing tribal council, and even using clout from Washington to get what they want.
If they offer the game, I'll do my best to take it in the manner and time frame that I see fit. If it becomes too much they can back me off or 86 me. But I won't give them more latitude just because of who they are. They are a casino and I am there to take their money, end of story.
Paddy
That place you play at has little honor and are guilty of many things. They are also disliked by other tribes in the area. But not all are undeserving of high regard and respect. BTW, that place you play at,,,,unless you are very strong in one talent it really does suck,,,just what I would expect from them.
CP
That place you play at has little honor and are guilty of many things. They are also disliked by other tribes in the area. But not all are undeserving of high regard and respect. BTW, that place you play at,,,,unless you are very strong in one talent it really does suck,,,just what I would expect from them.
CP
i'm with you on this one CP.
it's really no different than how it is for mankind with farming and hunting of animals or farming and mining the land. it's a mark of a man who respects and honors the resources that gives one sustenance. cruelty and disrespect of animals or abuse of the environment does mankind no good, just the opposite.
this is equally true for those of us who are able to find sustenance from casino's. respect and honor is in order, imho.
it's really no different than how it is for mankind with farming and hunting of animals or farming and mining the land. it's a mark of a man who respects and honors the resources that gives one sustenance. cruelty and disrespect of animals or abuse of the environment does mankind no good, just the opposite.
this is equally true for those of us who are able to find sustenance from casino's. respect and honor is in order, imho.
Back on track here, a little...
I would consider suing in the tribal court. From what I've read, these courts are actually fair in most cases. Not always, but then again, neither are US and state courts (like Nevada).
See if there is a tribal gaming commission (there usually is) and file a complaint with them first. If that doesn't get anywhere, you could sue.
As far as the people arguing that Indian nations are not sovereign, they most certainly are according to US law. It's actually written into the constitution. Now courts are still trying to figure out the technicalities of this, but in general they have significant rights to self-govern.
I would consider suing in the tribal court. From what I've read, these courts are actually fair in most cases. Not always, but then again, neither are US and state courts (like Nevada).
See if there is a tribal gaming commission (there usually is) and file a complaint with them first. If that doesn't get anywhere, you could sue.
As far as the people arguing that Indian nations are not sovereign, they most certainly are according to US law. It's actually written into the constitution. Now courts are still trying to figure out the technicalities of this, but in general they have significant rights to self-govern.
What sometimes works
Fighting sovereignty in court or going to tribal court both tend to be dead ends that get you nowhere and $480 is not worth any sort of legal fees.
What has worked in the past is either bad publicity or the threat of it. Many native casinos are completely dependent upon income gotten from local players and bad press on both the local airwaves and newspapers is something that they really fear, especially if there is competition in the area.
Being an AP who has been at this casino often enough, you should have known that they ask for ID at low amounts and the fact that you had been already barred should have made it a certainty that you cashed out only small amounts, so the original poster can put alot of blame on himself.
Fighting sovereignty in court or going to tribal court both tend to be dead ends that get you nowhere and $480 is not worth any sort of legal fees.
What has worked in the past is either bad publicity or the threat of it. Many native casinos are completely dependent upon income gotten from local players and bad press on both the local airwaves and newspapers is something that they really fear, especially if there is competition in the area.
Being an AP who has been at this casino often enough, you should have known that they ask for ID at low amounts and the fact that you had been already barred should have made it a certainty that you cashed out only small amounts, so the original poster can put alot of blame on himself.
As a former newspaper reporter, the local paper may not be as interested in a BJ player. I've seen many stories over the years of tribal casinos denying 1-arm bandit JPs. Almost every story I've ever seen about denying a JP has been Tribal as opposed to a casino under a state jurisdiction.
The reason is that even state gaming commissions must indirectly answer to voters. Tribal courts and councils do not have to answer to non members.
I avoid tribal casinos like they are the plague.
The reason is that even state gaming commissions must indirectly answer to voters. Tribal courts and councils do not have to answer to non members.
I avoid tribal casinos like they are the plague.
Please do avoid all indian casinos
Thank you for your non support!!! Yes indian casinos are the worst ....They even might take you out back and beat you...If you have zero balls please stay away... Hell their table maxes are teeny tiny...not worth the effort for most..
Most of them are in the back woods and the drive to them is hell...No freeways, no crowds...the scenery sucks.. I mean who would want to combine a vacation with your play...Now there are some nice mega indain casinos,,,please do enjoy those stores..
Machinist
Thank you for your non support!!! Yes indian casinos are the worst ....They even might take you out back and beat you...If you have zero balls please stay away... Hell their table maxes are teeny tiny...not worth the effort for most..
Most of them are in the back woods and the drive to them is hell...No freeways, no crowds...the scenery sucks.. I mean who would want to combine a vacation with your play...Now there are some nice mega indain casinos,,,please do enjoy those stores..
Machinist