Cipher- The Wizard of BJ

LC...I would be frightened if I were you. Threats made over an anonymous forum tend to be serious. :eek: Especially when they are backed up with pseudo-legalese. Someone has been watching Perry Mason.
 

ScottH

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I was going to help improve the thread, but I'm having trouble getting pictures up. Can someone give me a little explanation. When I copy the shortcut and paste it with the tags just the link comes up and no picture.

Sorry, it's been too long since I've dealt with html.
 

halcyon1234

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CIPHER said:

1) You (TIM BELL) are hereby made aware of the existence of such video.
2) The continued display of the aforementioned video shall serve as evidence of your knowledge of said video.
3) You will thereby be considered as a co-conspirator in those same acts of Damian Dunlap with regards the display of said video.
No further warning will be given.
Cipher
1) You (Cipher) are hereby made aware of the existence of hydrogen bombs, which can potentially kill hundreds of millions of people.
2) The afroementioned fact shall be taken with the evidence that water is contains hydrogen
3) You will thereby be made aware that you (Cipher) are made of of approximately 90% water.

Therefore, you are hereby concidered to be a dangerous hydrogen bomb. Ipsofactoid, you are irregardlessly odered to turn yourself over into the federal custody of the nearest NSA (National Security Agency) reprsentative.

No further warning will be given.
 
Cipher is running out of time and options

halcyon1234 said:
1) You (Cipher) are hereby made aware of the existence of hydrogen bombs, which can potentially kill hundreds of millions of people.
2) The afroementioned fact shall be taken with the evidence that water is contains hydrogen
3) You will thereby be made aware that you (Cipher) are made of of approximately 90% water.

Therefore, you are hereby concidered to be a dangerous hydrogen bomb. Ipsofactoid, you are irregardlessly odered to turn yourself over into the federal custody of the nearest NSA (National Security Agency) reprsentative.

No further warning will be given.

LMAO!

Typo's aside, this post made the whole thread worth it. Thanks Halcyon1234.

Cipher, your posts are pathetic. Worse - if LC decides to click on any of the links posted by ZEN or others and report this, the rest of your life will be composed of a series of ever more painful reamings both legally and literally. You have no clue how deep the shit you're in will get.

Far better to just pay the man RIGHT NOW IN FULL. Be smart before this thing spirals out of control. You say you're gambler? A good gambler knows when to cut his losses. It's time. Do it now.
 
KoKo21 said:
I didnt think it could happen, but this thread has took a turn for the better :laugh:
Quite frankly I think this thread jumped the shark after the first half dozen or so posts and I hope Ken kills it. Cipher is a loathsome criminal as it appears, and I think LC and others who he ripped off would be better off not discussing facts in a criminal or civil case with anyone but their attorneys! Anything you say here can be twisted around by a defense attorney to weaken your case and diminish your chances of getting justice.
 

Liquid Chips

Well-Known Member
Automatic Monkey said:
Quite frankly I think this thread jumped the shark after the first half dozen or so posts and I hope Ken kills it. Cipher is a loathsome criminal as it appears, and I think LC and others who he ripped off would be better off not discussing facts in a criminal or civil case with anyone but their attorneys! Anything you say here can be twisted around by a defense attorney to weaken your case and diminish your chances of getting justice.
Yes, you're right, AutoMonkey. I believe the topic has run its course on here and the other boards. I believe it actually ran its course already late Saturday but Cipher kept on going and going....

So now the legal stuff will be worked out the next couple of weeks.
 

Brutus

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Automatic Monkey said:
Quite frankly I think this thread jumped the shark after the first half dozen or so posts and I hope Ken kills it. Cipher is a loathsome criminal as it appears, and I think LC and others who he ripped off would be better off not discussing facts in a criminal or civil case with anyone but their attorneys! Anything you say here can be twisted around by a defense attorney to weaken your case and diminish your chances of getting justice.
I have to agree that our forum is no place to make a case.

could you imagine being the judge, and reading these posts. or an attorney looking over discovery?

the interpretations of law... the manufacture of laws... the threats...



Cipher could do time over this.

LC could pay thousands to an attorney to get what is his.
even then he would have to collect it.
(maybe the black porsche)


who loves ya baby?
 
unanswered questions

after everything that has been revealed in these threads, there is still one question that has been bothering me. why, if you were as fat as cipher, would you post a picture of yourself next to a product you are trying to sell? i mean, it's disgusting isn't it? if i were as fat as cipher there is no way i would put a picture of my fat ass anywhere near my product, no matter how stupid the product was (say, for example, it was as stupid as cipher's software). it's just a turnoff to consumers. i mean, think about if you saw cipher's big ol belly next to a porsche on the dealer's lot. the image of a disgustingly overweight fatty would forever be associated with porsches. that's just bad marketing.
 

Liquid Chips

Well-Known Member
DamianDunlap (on OPU) said:
If you gave money to cipher or he owes you money. Please send me a email.
[email protected]
I will not post your name or story in the forum or any site, unless you want me too.
If you want a good chance to go after his assets, this might be the only action you can take.

Thanks
Let Damian know if you gave money to Cipher and want to get it back. So far, it looks as if the total is going to hit $200,000 soon.
 
Liquid Chips said:
Let Damian know if you gave money to Cipher and want to get it back. So far, it looks as if the total is going to hit $200,000 soon.
$200,000!!! Yumpin yimminy!
I guess we've seen the last of him -
unless he keeps his word and explains his side of it. zg

 

ScottH

Well-Known Member
zengrifter said:
$200,000!!! Yumpin yimminy!
I guess we've seen the last of him -
unless he keeps his word and explains his side of it. zg

I guess I'm not surprised the number is at 200,000+, because if there are people dumb enough to fall for Nigerian email scams, there are certainly people dumb enough to fall for the Cipher Scam.
 
ScottH said:
I guess I'm not surprised the number is at 200,000+, because if there are people dumb enough to fall for Nigerian email scams, there are certainly people dumb enough to fall for the Cipher Scam.

Scott,

That is a good point, but you are overlooking one thing. Most Nigerians aren't as fat as Cipher.
 
There is so much bullshit going on in so many forums and so many threads that it's very difficult to keep up with.
There also seems to be many knowledgeable posters regarding the legalities in this particular situation.
But, even some of the posters are starting to debate each others posts.
I don't think that there is anyone out there that truly has a decisive answer to this problem.

I am looking forward to the final chapter and closing this book.
Hopefully with a happy ending for Tim Bell.

I also believe that if and when this gets put to rest, that the threads will continue of whether or not the outcome was fair and proper.
Just like in The Pirate fiasco.

Good luck Tim!

(Couldn't sleep, so I thought I'd just throw in my two cents :) )
 

Liquid Chips

Well-Known Member
LANIDAR said:

I am looking forward to the final chapter and closing this book.
Hopefully with a happy ending for Tim Bell.

I also believe that if and when this gets put to rest, that the threads will continue of whether or not the outcome was fair and proper.
Just like in The Pirate fiasco.

Good luck Tim!

(Couldn't sleep, so I thought I'd just throw in my two cents :) )
Thanks, Lanidar. Thanks for your posts too over at OPU. Happy ending or not, the story is as it is.
 
I posted this at Sucks....

Casinomeister closed the thread.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/16265-cipher-wizard-black-jack-26.html

I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Alot of BULLSHIT going on and on and on.
I guess through this forum and other forums we will see the result.

Didn't Cipher say yesterday that something was going to take place in 24 hours?
He also said he was going to go to Compton and that he took the picture of the police department with his cell phone.
Two more lies.

Well....lets just wait and see what happens today.
 
Well, things are looking even worse for cipher over at the OPU.

check this post (Archive copy)

Another sad story. I think it is time for all to come out. Cipher, it is time to apologize. I am serious, seek the counsel of a friend if you have someone you can trust. I am sure they would tell you to own up at this point. A little honesty will go a long way.

-BP
 
bilgplaya said:
Well, things are looking even worse for cipher over at the OPU.

check this post (Archive copy)

Another sad story. I think it is time for all to come out. Cipher, it is time to apologize. I am serious, seek the counsel of a friend if you have someone you can trust. I am sure they would tell you to own up at this point. A little honesty will go a long way.

-BP
The post is gone BUT it appears that another victim -ezc3m- has come forward. zg (Archive copy)
 
I have copied and pasted the emails from the post. Will send it to anyone if they PM me. Basicaly it is a few emails between Bruce Holway and this latest alleged victim exemplifying the same types of excuses that have become Bruce Holway's trademark.
 
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