CKO/TKO - Looking for Opinions/Ideas

#1
I have been practicing a version of Color K-O (by Leroy Nimka) that implements ideas from Daniel Dravot's "Color of Blackjack." I am looking for any and all opinions on the effectiveness of this system or any changes I should make. Here are the details of the count I use and the rules I play with:

6 deck, S17, DAS, LS, Blackjack pays 3:2, about 83% penetration (extremely favorable rules)
1-10 bet spread ($10-$100) (As per the book, I am planning on taking 12 max bets with me to each casino trip, which is twice a month. As of right now, $1200 is my bankroll but I am somewhat able to replenish it)
K-O count (2 through 7 = 1, 8 and 9 = 0, 10 and A = -1)



I use a chart (made on google sheets) to plot the different true counts for every running count at each deck (Take note that I created it on my phone and, therefore, looks a little wonky on PC at times). I have the chart on the top right memorized and I simply keep a running count during the game and compare it with this grid to find out which "color" I am in. I make my betting decisions and playing deviations based on which color I am in at the time. My betting ramp is on the bottom left and my deviations next to it. My actual bet ramp numbers are sort of an amalgamation of different strategies and could be modified. I am more concerned about my deviations which are heavily Frankenstein-ed from different posts/strategies. I even rounded some of them for simplicity. Are there any changes that I could make to maximize EV or minimize risk? I would lean towards the latter over the former if possible. Feel free to ask or say anything, thanks!

My spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
 

MrFatCat

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#2
Just so you're aware, your ROR is almost certainly massive with that size bankroll. I believe the "correct" bankroll to have around a 1-2% ROR with what you've posted here is $10,000. You can certainly give it a shot, I just wouldn't do it if that $1,200 is important to you, basically.
 
#4
MrFatCat said:
Just so you're aware, your ROR is almost certainly massive with that size bankroll. I believe the "correct" bankroll to have around a 1-2% ROR with what you've posted here is $10,000. You can certainly give it a shot, I just wouldn't do it if that $1,200 is important to you, basically.

Hi! I apologize for the late response; it took a while for this thread to get approved and I gave up on this website for another one.

I’m well aware that my risk is massive but my bankroll can be replenished. I have since counted using this method at two casinos. The first trip, I was down $600, then crawled my way back to even. The second, I went on a massive run and about 2 hours in, was up $900 for a total bankroll now of $2100. I’m actually going to casino tonight so I will post my results from that here. What would you say my RoR is with $2100 now? What about trip ruin if I play for three hours at a table with the above favorable rules?

I appreciate your time.
 
#6
Most serious players don't play longer than about an hour at a local game for longevity. It just gives the casino too much time to figure out that you are counting.
And getting in the hole...and then playing a few more hours and climbing out is a big tell for the casino.
And regarding ROR...buy CVCX it will help you figure all that out and much more.
 
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