Csm

[maths boy]

u can count against csm but very very very hard to reprocess the card!! i might have

I've often wondered would it not be possible to keep a running count of CSMs and use that information for betting purposes. The theory being if, say the count went really high to the plus side.. Which would indicate you have been seeing an abnormal amount of small cards. Would it not make sense at some point you would start seeing the big cards and the count would head back toward zero.

I've tinkered with this on electronic games where I know the number of decks.. but I don't know when it shuffles. It seems to be somewhat effective.

Having said that, I have not done any math to prove it one way or the other. Just seems like there would be some probable advantage to it...

I'd like to hear some thoughts on it..

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[Sucker]

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Not very insightful, for your very first post.

 

[bigplayer]

Depends on what you mean by "beaten". With a CSM, you are playing very close to the deck that BS was designed for, almost every hand. While counting or any advantage play won't help you, it is still possible for you to win any session you play. I've seen people buy-in for 450 and walk away with multiple black chips as a result of positive variance.

I understand what you are saying, however it is important to note that cards dealt from a CSM are not going to have any real differences from those dealt from a shoe in terms of mixture or randomness. You can still get "clumps" of big and small cards with a CSM as easily as a regular shoe. The only difference is that the "cut card effect" doesn't come into play with CSM's which is why a 4 deck CSM has a slightly lower house advantage than a 4 deck shoe with similar penetration.