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Is it worth playing on CSM, or should I quit?:
That depends on what your objective is. If your goal is to play for recreation and enjoyment, meet some people, engage in conversation, and maybe win a few hands now and then, you will do fine on the CSM's. If your goal is to be a successful, profitable player, CSM's will not get the job done.
Does the strategy engine on this site offer help while playing on a CSM? Certainly yes. The odds are already stacked against you in Blackjack, and learning the basic strategy offers you the best chance of reducing the house edge.
The A7 is one of the most mis-played hands in blackjack. Fellow players, and dealers, will relentlessly beat up on you for taking another card when the situation warrants it. "You have 18", they are quick to announce. "Don't mess it up". Take your game to a higher level. Double down on your A7 when it is the right play. Hit your A7 vs dealer 10 up.
And if it helps to have an intuitive way of thinking about it (which I find it does), think about it this way: You're opting to put twice as much money into a very good situation compared to half that amount in an excellent situation.
(But as johndoe rightly points out: just play the way the computer simulations tell you is the right way.)
(But as johndoe rightly points out: just play the way the computer simulations tell you is the right way.)
A have a few more questions for you dear members:
1.What to do when you are sitting with a retard/s on the table,who dont know how to play blackjack,saying hit with 16 against 6...?Tell them to fuc# off the table?Do I lose more money when I am playing next to the fool,even if I am playing perfect basic strategy,or it isnt matter how others on the table are playing?
2.16 against 7-maybe I am wrong,but with this cards,I always say stand.Only if a dealer have 10 or ace i will lose,and with 6,7,8,9 I will bust.So I think I have more options to win if I stand with this hand.What is your opinion?
3.I am playing in Europe,so dealer cant peek.Do I need to pick late or early surrender as a option in Basic Strategy Engine?Because with late surrender it said with 14 to hit against 10,not to surrender.And with 8-8 i have to split against 10,not to surrender.
4.And why do I need to hit with 16 against 8?Why dont use a surrender option?
p.s.sorry for my english.
1.What to do when you are sitting with a retard/s on the table,who dont know how to play blackjack,saying hit with 16 against 6...?Tell them to fuc# off the table?Do I lose more money when I am playing next to the fool,even if I am playing perfect basic strategy,or it isnt matter how others on the table are playing?
2.16 against 7-maybe I am wrong,but with this cards,I always say stand.Only if a dealer have 10 or ace i will lose,and with 6,7,8,9 I will bust.So I think I have more options to win if I stand with this hand.What is your opinion?
3.I am playing in Europe,so dealer cant peek.Do I need to pick late or early surrender as a option in Basic Strategy Engine?Because with late surrender it said with 14 to hit against 10,not to surrender.And with 8-8 i have to split against 10,not to surrender.
4.And why do I need to hit with 16 against 8?Why dont use a surrender option?
p.s.sorry for my english.
Depends on what you mean by "worth it". Does the casino give you comps and coupons that match or exceed your expected loss? Are you playing for entertainment value? If so it might be 'worth it". Are you playing to make money? If so it's probably not "worth it" unless there is something special going on that you haven't mentioned.
1. Other players actions do not affect you in the long run. They help you as often as they hurt you. The net effect is nothing.
2. You are wrong. Hitting is only -41%, standing is -48%. Both are losing propositions...but you lose 7% less by hitting. You are only thinking in terms of the first hit. Most of the time the dealer will have 17, but if the dealer has a 2 thru 9 in the hole he can still hit again and improve to 17 or higher much of the time....if the dealer has a A, 2,3,4,10,J, Q, K in the hole your 16 is most likely beaten either immediately or after the dealer hits. That's 8 out of 13 cards favoring the dealer by my math if you stand. If you are averse to hitting 16 vs anything it should be versus a 10 which is almost a toss-up (still very slightly favoring a hit).
3. You pick early surrender if the house lets you surrender even if the dealer subsequently gets a blackjack. You pick late surrender if the dealer leaves your bet on the top of your folded hand until after he draws and then takes your bet if his second card gives him a blackjack.
4. The EV to stand on 16 vs 8 is -51.3%. The EV to hit 16 vs 8 is -45.3%. The EV to surrender 16 vs 8 is -50%. So it is obvious you should hit.
Pick up a copy of Wong's book "Professional Blackjack" and read it closely.
2. You are wrong. Hitting is only -41%, standing is -48%. Both are losing propositions...but you lose 7% less by hitting. You are only thinking in terms of the first hit. Most of the time the dealer will have 17, but if the dealer has a 2 thru 9 in the hole he can still hit again and improve to 17 or higher much of the time....if the dealer has a A, 2,3,4,10,J, Q, K in the hole your 16 is most likely beaten either immediately or after the dealer hits. That's 8 out of 13 cards favoring the dealer by my math if you stand. If you are averse to hitting 16 vs anything it should be versus a 10 which is almost a toss-up (still very slightly favoring a hit).
3. You pick early surrender if the house lets you surrender even if the dealer subsequently gets a blackjack. You pick late surrender if the dealer leaves your bet on the top of your folded hand until after he draws and then takes your bet if his second card gives him a blackjack.
4. The EV to stand on 16 vs 8 is -51.3%. The EV to hit 16 vs 8 is -45.3%. The EV to surrender 16 vs 8 is -50%. So it is obvious you should hit.
Pick up a copy of Wong's book "Professional Blackjack" and read it closely.
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Milan,
You keep wanting "opinions" on how to play hands. Most of the people here, whether APs or BSers do not rely on opinions, they rely on math. If you want to play hands based on how you feel, or what someone's "opinion" is, that's fine. I hope you have fun, and I know the casinos love to see you.
If, however, you want to reduce the casino's edge (and possibly even turn it in your favor), just learn to play the math.
And the other people at the table will help you as much as they hurt you, regardless of how they play. Sometimes you'll want to curse when they hit their fifteen against the dealer's six, and take "your" ten. But other times they'll burn the card that would have busted you, and leave you the small card that makes your hand.
Happy playing.
You keep wanting "opinions" on how to play hands. Most of the people here, whether APs or BSers do not rely on opinions, they rely on math. If you want to play hands based on how you feel, or what someone's "opinion" is, that's fine. I hope you have fun, and I know the casinos love to see you.
If, however, you want to reduce the casino's edge (and possibly even turn it in your favor), just learn to play the math.
And the other people at the table will help you as much as they hurt you, regardless of how they play. Sometimes you'll want to curse when they hit their fifteen against the dealer's six, and take "your" ten. But other times they'll burn the card that would have busted you, and leave you the small card that makes your hand.
Happy playing.
