responding to the bet ramp discussion, I'm aware that this ramp will work, but why do it? what do you mean if YOU HAVE TO play? being forced at gunpoint to play? it wouldn't be worth the time to play it, I would rather spend my time doing something enjoyable than sitting through a difficult game.
And I'm sure those dirty asians weren't considering playing like that for camo, or because they had such a huge BR. I agree with nightstalker, all those dirty dirty asians are ploppies and terrible BJ players.