Does the Money You Start With Matter?

[P1NSTR1PEZ]

When you first sit at a table with a players card they enter you into the computer. Does it matter as far as comps go if I sit down with (for example) $100 rather than $250-$300 but keep the same bet ($20) during the shoe?

I'm trying to maximize my comps, thanks.

 

[shadroch]

Buying in for more will help you a tiny bit. What really matters is your average bet, but if the pitboss is called over several times to record small buy-ins, it won't be helpful. Same is true if you buy-in for $1,000 and start betting red chips.

 

[blackjack avenger]

I'll Have Another

I agree with Shadroch, at your level does not mean much. Perhaps try a $300 buy in and next time $500 and just try to get a feel of the pits reaction. There will probably be no difference.:joker::whip:

 

[zengrifter]

I'm trying to maximize my comps, thanks.

Mostly make big bets when your bet size is being noted. Get Rubin's Comp City. zg

 

[moo321]

When you first sit at a table with a players card they enter you into the computer. Does it matter as far as comps go if I sit down with (for example) $100 rather than $250-$300 but keep the same bet ($20) during the shoe?

I'm trying to maximize my comps, thanks.

It really depends on the casino. One casino I play at told me that I should buy in for at least a certain amount per day to get my room comped. MGM seems to comp better when I lose a lot. Harrah's seems to comp best when I play a ton in one day.

 

[tfg]

I think buying in for more does help some. Another thing I never do is use the chips I got from one table at another table after I've been colored up. I'm almost positive that at the place I play there's a difference between buying in with cash and checking blacks.

 

[shadroch]

I think buying in for more does help some. Another thing I never do is use the chips I got from one table at another table after I've been colored up. I'm almost positive that at the place I play there's a difference between buying in with cash and checking blacks.

That can cause problems in some casinos. Last year, in Laughlin, I colored up two black but didn't cash out until later, after I'd colored up another three. Went to cash the five , the cashier called the pit and was told I had three. Big pain in the ass as I had to explain to two people how i had won the others earlier that day on the previous shift. Ended up bringing unneeded attention to myself in a place that sweats BJ players.
I'm thinking anyone who has played laughlin can id this casino in a heartbeat.

 

[tfg]

Wow really. Is that a normal occurance? Is it a smaller place or something? I don't think I've ever had something like that happen at the cage.

 

[amarillo slick]

forget the comps, play for money and then check on the comp accumulation after about 100 hours of playing

 

[FLASH1296]

Bare in mind that many casinos will NOT rate a player betting minimally.

In these harsh times the refusal to rate has become less and less commonplace.

 

[BBjoe]

When you first sit at a table with a players card they enter you into the computer. Does it matter as far as comps go if I sit down with (for example) $100 rather than $250-$300 but keep the same bet ($20) during the shoe?

I'm trying to maximize my comps, thanks.

They monitor how long you're sitting at the table and simply multiple that by some average. At least this is what I was told recently. Of course this may differ from casino to casino. I was at an Indian casino in California and I don't think they shell out comps as much as Vegas being that they're the only game in town.

 

[tensplitter]

I would buy in for $500 and bet greens at a $10 table for the first 2 hands while the pit boss is looking, then bet reds until the count warrants a higher bet. I would also rathole a green chip every 15 minutes, making it look like I'm losing $100 an hour.

 

[FLASH1296]

Your buy-in has absolutely NOTHING to do with your rating for comps.

Long ago, your buy-in was a minor consideration.

Try buying-in for an enormous amount, play modestly for a very short time and watch your rating fail to change any more than you bwould expect.

A Card Counter should never buy-in for more than a modest amount.

Generally, 20 units suffices.

 

[tribute]

I think buying in for more does help some. Another thing I never do is use the chips I got from one table at another table after I've been colored up. I'm almost positive that at the place I play there's a difference between buying in with cash and checking blacks.

What is the advantage, or difference, in using cash instead of chips?

 

[kewljason]

A Card Counter should never buy-in for more than a modest amount.

Generally, 20 units suffices.

I take this to the extreme. I buy in for 8 units, (2 ben's) at a time. I play a hit and run style and this is kind of an indication that I may not be staying long. So when the count tanks and I up and bolt after a few hands, they are almost expecting it. :laugh: If I lose my 8 units, I buy in for another 8 units. If the count has risen to the point that I am betting 4 or more units, I may rebuy in for 12. If the count is going up and I do multiple re-buy ins while increasing my bet, it looks like I am steaming and chasing.

I used to actually buy in intitally for even less, (4 units at a time) but that was counter productive as it drew additional attention with the floorperson having to stop and glance my way more often. So I found a happy medium.