Assuming equality of variables
tribute said:
Well now, it appears the "experts" have differing opinions! I should rephrase my original question:
Assuming EVERYTHING being equal (number of decks, rules, AND same number of hands dealt per hour, does a basic strategy player gain ANY mathematical positive change in EV playing on a CSM as opposed to a shoe game?
To directly answer your question, yes if everything is equal the bs player gains slightly but is still playing a negative expectation game. The amount gained is so small that I believe if a hand or two extra are dealt per hour, that reduction in house when multiplied by the amount of money bet in that hour, is now gone.
The problem from all points of view are the variables are never equal. The casino gets more hands per hour, which means they take all (including the bs player) the players money faster, but much less money plays on a CSM table and it results in a total of less profit for the casino.
I do not want to encourage any player to play a CSM but instead of comparing a CSM game to a hand shuffled game, instead compare it to an ASM game.
Here the number of hands played per hour are basically the same, within a hand or two per hour.
When you take this and put it into the reality of many casinos you actually can get more hands per hour out of a ASM because CSM tables are often the lowest bet level and populated by the least experienced players. These players tend to slow down the game. So since a BS player is playing a losing game and is better off playing less hands per hour, he is ever so slightly better off playing on this very slow CSM table if his other option is playing on a higher bet level, ASM table with quick dealers and players.
Of course the only way to make that decision properly is to watch the dealer and players on both tables.
Of course would there be another table, with the same variables but it is hand shuffled, then he would be best off there because there would even be fewer hands.
Assume nothing. Size up each game/table individually.
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