Handling awkward situation

#1
I drove to a casino some 3 hours away. At the lone DD table, I started playing heads up. Within a few minutes, another guy playing rated, known and familiar to dealer and pit sat down. I was playing 2 hands, he started playing one spot. He had two bets, a $50 and a $100. He would play the $50 and occasionally play $100 at TC2 or higher.

The problem started whenever deck turned negative. He would simply wave off and let the dealer know he is sitting out. I found myself playing negative decks on my own, sharing positive decks with him. If the last round was coming up with positive count, he would play 2 hands.

Since he played with only 2 bets, $50 or $100 and sometimes had $50 on high TC and sometimes $100 on lesser positive true counts, I guess the casino had him pegged as a non counter. However, it losses me off when he dropped himself out and let me play the negative shoe.

What could I have done?
 

sagefr0g

Well-Known Member
#3
Meistro said:
Any time you notice another counter at your table you should immediately leave.
a fond memory of being out at sea arises, for which there was a really good game accompanied by another counter (not an associate). rather than drink sea water, i played.
i guess that's an example of another rule, 'there s an exception to every rule' ?
 

Joe Mama

Active Member
#4
If he sits out, color up and leave making excuse that you were supposed to meet some one a few minutes ago and forgot. Leaves him in an awkward situation, sitting out with no one else at the table.
 

21forme

Well-Known Member
#7
ZeeBabar said:
Easier Said Than Done! I mean I had driven 3 Hours, was First at table, should I be driven away by another counter?
You drove 3 hours, hoping the one and only table you're willing to play was available. What if 4 players sat down at that table - Then what?

You need to overcome your aversion to shoe games and expand your repertoire. Shoe games are the bread and butter of most successful counters.
 

gronbog

Well-Known Member
#8
Go to the bathroom
Take a phone call
Answer some texts
Any other excuse you can think of for leaving the table temporarily

All of these leave the other guy sitting at the table alone in the same position that he tried to put you in.
 

Joe Mama

Active Member
#9
OK, try this. He spreads to two hands, you spread to two hands. He sits out, you take a phone call until he either plays, quits, or they shuffle up. Keep taking those "annoying" phone calls until he figures out he can't get away with what he is doing. However, I wonder if this is a state where you cannot be backed off if this is a casino employee countermeasure.
 

Meistro

Well-Known Member
#10
"Easier Said Than Done! I mean I had driven 3 Hours, was First at table, should I be driven away by another counter?"

Yes. Playing with another card counter at your table is a massive red flag, because your bets will be rising and falling in unison. You might as well wear a T-Shirt that says "I'd rather be counting cards". Either go do something else until he is finished, or go home. Do not play with another counter at the table.
 
#12
The same exact thing happened to me. I stopped playing and said I do not want to play alone. The dealer called the pit boss and told him. The pitboss said ok you can shuffle. The player did not do it again.
 

LV Bear

Administrator
#13
Good Guy said:
The same exact thing happened to me. I stopped playing and said I do not want to play alone. The dealer called the pit boss and told him. The pitboss said ok you can shuffle. The player did not do it again.
What would you have done if you had been fortunate enough to later get the game alone? Having already claimed you don't want to play alone, how would you get around that?
 
#14
Nothing. It did actually happen. Both dealer and pit knew the player wanted a new shuffle. They have seen pretty much every strange thing before. No explanation necessary.
 
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