High count - disregard BS?

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MuddyTaxi

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I was playing with a friend the other night, and the TC was at 4. Now, I had K, 3 and the dealer had a 9. I knew the deck was rich with high cards, so I was confused whether to hit or not. What would you have done? Should you always follow BS? If not, when do I push it aside?

Yes, I hit and lost the hand. :sad:
 
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LeonShuffle

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Most (if not all) counting systems have certain deviations from basic strategy at different counts. They are referred to as indeces. For instance: with a TC of +1 you may stand on a 16 vs 10. Or with a TC of +4 you may take insurance. These are all included in whatever system you're using. There could be anywhere from a couple to high double digits. They're important, but much more so in single and double deck games than in shoes, where bet spread is most important. If it's Hi-Lo you're using, there may be an index for 13 vs 9 but it must be pretty damn high. You were right to hit.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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LeonShuffle said:
If it's Hi-Lo you're using, there may be an index for 13 vs 9 but it must be pretty damn high. You were right to hit.
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There is no meaningful index for 13 v. 9. MuddyT, don't deviate from BS untill you either learn the top20 indices -or- switch to a "count-factored" BS. zg
 
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E-town-guy

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Since the count is high its probably a lose lose situation, i.e. you'll get 23 or the dealer will get 19. Nonetheless you still should hit your hand. I'm guessing that since there is no index # for 13 vs 9 the index number would be over 10.
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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E-town-guy said:
Since the count is high its probably a lose lose situation, i.e. you'll get 23 or the dealer will get 19. Nonetheless you still should hit your hand. I'm guessing that since there is no index # for 13 vs 9 the index number would be over 10.
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Index departure for dealer 9 kicks in at player 14 at about +10 HiLo, same for 13 v 10. And knowing and utilizing those #s mean next to nothing to your counter +EV. zg
 
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