HiLo players. How many indices do you have memorized?
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metronome said:
Wow gentleman, how often, if ever, does one "review" all these indices.
Guess i need to re-read the illustrious 18.... or maybe now the golden 200
Really, is it like phone numbers are to me ( I have hundreds related to my business in my head ) or is it "action related." ?
Thanks in advance
Guess i need to re-read the illustrious 18.... or maybe now the golden 200
Really, is it like phone numbers are to me ( I have hundreds related to my business in my head ) or is it "action related." ?
Thanks in advance
I personally use something like 90 or so.
I believe that for a 4-deck game Snyder showed that the I18 capture 80% of the possible advantage. So, for 6-8 decks, you are getting more than 80%, but for pitch games you'd get a little bit less than this.
This is just my opinion, but I think it is a total waste of one's effort to learn multiple sets of indices.
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metronome said:
Wow gentleman, how often, if ever, does one "review" all these indices.
Guess i need to re-read the illustrious 18.... or maybe now the golden 200
Really, is it like phone numbers are to me ( I have hundreds related to my business in my head ) or is it "action related." ?
Thanks in advance
Guess i need to re-read the illustrious 18.... or maybe now the golden 200
Really, is it like phone numbers are to me ( I have hundreds related to my business in my head ) or is it "action related." ?
Thanks in advance
Besides the illustrious 18, I think people should memorize these indexes based on importance: (I do)
12-16 vs. upcard 2-6. (Because ploppies make all kinds of moves on these stick hands, anything you do won't alert the suits. Also make you look like ploppie.)
double 10, 11 vs. upcard 10, ace.
double 5 (2&3), 6 (2&4), 7, 8 vs. upcard 2 - 6 (when true count is really high, this is your money making machine that most people overlook).
16 vs. upcard 8,9,10 (very handy when true count is high and you have your max bet).
15 vs. upcard 9,10
14 vs. upcard 10
12-16 vs. upcard 2-6. (Because ploppies make all kinds of moves on these stick hands, anything you do won't alert the suits. Also make you look like ploppie.)
double 10, 11 vs. upcard 10, ace.
double 5 (2&3), 6 (2&4), 7, 8 vs. upcard 2 - 6 (when true count is really high, this is your money making machine that most people overlook).
16 vs. upcard 8,9,10 (very handy when true count is high and you have your max bet).
15 vs. upcard 9,10
14 vs. upcard 10
How Many Indices do you have Memorized?
Back in the day before home blackjack analysis software, I learned 80 indices, most of which I still remember. Since then and after running many sims, I find that for the shoe game, using any more than about 35 yields next to nothing extra.
That doesn't include Surrender, and it's not using Hi/Lo, but rather Halves with a PE of 56%. Perhaps with higher PE systems like Zen or Mentor (PE's in the low 60's), more indices might help a bit more.
Can't say about DD, but you'd probably want a greater number of them, particularly the negative TC plays, since you're pretty much "playing all", and there's not such a great disparity between your max and min bets.
Back in the day before home blackjack analysis software, I learned 80 indices, most of which I still remember. Since then and after running many sims, I find that for the shoe game, using any more than about 35 yields next to nothing extra.
That doesn't include Surrender, and it's not using Hi/Lo, but rather Halves with a PE of 56%. Perhaps with higher PE systems like Zen or Mentor (PE's in the low 60's), more indices might help a bit more.
Can't say about DD, but you'd probably want a greater number of them, particularly the negative TC plays, since you're pretty much "playing all", and there's not such a great disparity between your max and min bets.
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