Hole-Carding
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The zen of flashing
In my experience I have seen the majority of flash in a pitch game. It does occur in shoe games. The bottom line is you have to find a dealer who is sloppy. These translates to rookie, sloppy, and or dealers who do not care for what ever reason. You also have to check every angle to see where the flash may be appearing. Just remember there are many other games where flashing occurs you just have to be sensitive to such dealer hand movements .
In my experience I have seen the majority of flash in a pitch game. It does occur in shoe games. The bottom line is you have to find a dealer who is sloppy. These translates to rookie, sloppy, and or dealers who do not care for what ever reason. You also have to check every angle to see where the flash may be appearing. Just remember there are many other games where flashing occurs you just have to be sensitive to such dealer hand movements .
Agree with LTC.....
In SD and most DD, wherein Dealer's (usually) Left hand is occupied with holding and "hiding" the deck(s), this leaves just one hand to slide their 2nd card below their upcard, AND NO HAND(s) to shield the slide, therefore sometimes creating an "angled slide" wherein certain players may "get a peek".
Especially in SD, many Dealers often use their "DECKED HAND" to shield the upcard as they slide in their downcard....occasionally, reveals a peek as to "What will not be played".
Conversely, in 6D, or any game dealt out of a Shoe, Dealer will usually "have a free hand", and often uses same to "shield" his/her cards as they slide in their 2nd one.
In my experience, MOST "HCF's" were "Tip-Hustling", i.e., Dealers who realized I tip, and gave US an advantage when it helped US...the same Dealers who often mis-count your 4-card 17's as "Pushes" and your 5-card 22's as wins. I usually avoid these types.
Do not get me wrong....I WANT AN ADVANTAGE! However, if I am kicked out of a certain Casino, I can always walk next door, and go to their Steak House, and usually free. These meals will usually be tasteful, satisfying, and will not hit the rectum for at least a day (unless I also eat the veggie appetizer).
However, I do not want to experience the STEAKS in the Clarke Co. Jail (LV) or the Tunica Co. Jail (MS)....this would/could happen if I were in collusion with a Dealer, or suspected of such. I have heard that their STEAKS are not tasty, not satisfying, AND HIT THE RECTUM ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE MOUTH!
LTC, GREAT to see a post from you!
phantom007.
In SD and most DD, wherein Dealer's (usually) Left hand is occupied with holding and "hiding" the deck(s), this leaves just one hand to slide their 2nd card below their upcard, AND NO HAND(s) to shield the slide, therefore sometimes creating an "angled slide" wherein certain players may "get a peek".
Especially in SD, many Dealers often use their "DECKED HAND" to shield the upcard as they slide in their downcard....occasionally, reveals a peek as to "What will not be played".
Conversely, in 6D, or any game dealt out of a Shoe, Dealer will usually "have a free hand", and often uses same to "shield" his/her cards as they slide in their 2nd one.
In my experience, MOST "HCF's" were "Tip-Hustling", i.e., Dealers who realized I tip, and gave US an advantage when it helped US...the same Dealers who often mis-count your 4-card 17's as "Pushes" and your 5-card 22's as wins. I usually avoid these types.
Do not get me wrong....I WANT AN ADVANTAGE! However, if I am kicked out of a certain Casino, I can always walk next door, and go to their Steak House, and usually free. These meals will usually be tasteful, satisfying, and will not hit the rectum for at least a day (unless I also eat the veggie appetizer).
However, I do not want to experience the STEAKS in the Clarke Co. Jail (LV) or the Tunica Co. Jail (MS)....this would/could happen if I were in collusion with a Dealer, or suspected of such. I have heard that their STEAKS are not tasty, not satisfying, AND HIT THE RECTUM ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE MOUTH!
LTC, GREAT to see a post from you!
phantom007.
Your post needs to be busted.
I'm sure you read Mayor's new guidline,yet you still choose to post this stuff and make matters worse.
No wonder there's so much pit paranoia in today's blackjack world.
Card counters such as yourself are more interested in touting their own wisdom and beliefs all over the internet while digging a deeper whole for the true AP's of blackjack.
I'm sure you read Mayor's new guidline,yet you still choose to post this stuff and make matters worse.
No wonder there's so much pit paranoia in today's blackjack world.
Card counters such as yourself are more interested in touting their own wisdom and beliefs all over the internet while digging a deeper whole for the true AP's of blackjack.
This info is way too well-known
Come on man even before I learned to count I noticed that dealers would sometimes expose themselves. It's got to be one of the first things they teach in dealer's school. That's different from revealing an advantage player-developed method that can beat a game in a different way or beat a game previously thought resistant to advantage play.
Come on man even before I learned to count I noticed that dealers would sometimes expose themselves. It's got to be one of the first things they teach in dealer's school. That's different from revealing an advantage player-developed method that can beat a game in a different way or beat a game previously thought resistant to advantage play.
Just got back
I agree with you Tom, I wish people would not post threads like these. I wish that mostly people would talk about how wonderful card counting is, and drive those who read their posts to try card counting. But this board has to allow people to speak in generalities about other *already known* methods. Such information as the poster requested already appears in books in print, how could it not be allowed here?
--Mayor
I agree with you Tom, I wish people would not post threads like these. I wish that mostly people would talk about how wonderful card counting is, and drive those who read their posts to try card counting. But this board has to allow people to speak in generalities about other *already known* methods. Such information as the poster requested already appears in books in print, how could it not be allowed here?
--Mayor
Dont make much sense.
You dont want to talk about basic strategy of hole card play,which is simple fundamentals and no big secret,much of it is common sense!? Yet you let a post remain that implies or suggest flashing,collusion,bribing,cheating,etc. is everywhere and dealers can be bought. I have over a dozen BJ books and NONE of them mention or imply this. In my opinion just because an obscure book is out there, does not justify good reason to keep the post up. I say,let the casino trolls go find the book for themself and get all paranoid after they read it.What exactly you're trying to hide from hole-card play,I'll never know,but I certainly hope it's not basic strategy.
I truly believe(actually, it's the truth)that many internet BJ message boards have damaged our game of BJ through out the years and have made conditions much worse that what they used to be, much of this is do to absurd casino
p-A-ra-N-oIa and rumours.
Merry Christmas Mayor,
Tom
You dont want to talk about basic strategy of hole card play,which is simple fundamentals and no big secret,much of it is common sense!? Yet you let a post remain that implies or suggest flashing,collusion,bribing,cheating,etc. is everywhere and dealers can be bought. I have over a dozen BJ books and NONE of them mention or imply this. In my opinion just because an obscure book is out there, does not justify good reason to keep the post up. I say,let the casino trolls go find the book for themself and get all paranoid after they read it.What exactly you're trying to hide from hole-card play,I'll never know,but I certainly hope it's not basic strategy.
I truly believe(actually, it's the truth)that many internet BJ message boards have damaged our game of BJ through out the years and have made conditions much worse that what they used to be, much of this is do to absurd casino
p-A-ra-N-oIa and rumours.
Merry Christmas Mayor,
Tom