cardcounter0
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How did you teach your dog to signal what he manages to get a peek of?
holecarding strategies
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I'd be interested to know the details of that experiment.
From what it give us in the video, the test seems to create the results the conductors wanted.
If you sit anyone down and flash that image and tell them nothing else except that "a letter will get you something nice, anything else will get you something horrible" then you automatically have people looking for letters and as the shape does look like the letter B, that's what people are going to see.
If you were however to tell them that "a letter will get you something nice and if you get a number you get something rotten" then they are looking for a letter or a number so shouldn't be inclined to see one over the other (hence a fair test).
Of course at that point you have to account for lying, but they seemed to have that covered.
RJT.
From what it give us in the video, the test seems to create the results the conductors wanted.
If you sit anyone down and flash that image and tell them nothing else except that "a letter will get you something nice, anything else will get you something horrible" then you automatically have people looking for letters and as the shape does look like the letter B, that's what people are going to see.
If you were however to tell them that "a letter will get you something nice and if you get a number you get something rotten" then they are looking for a letter or a number so shouldn't be inclined to see one over the other (hence a fair test).
Of course at that point you have to account for lying, but they seemed to have that covered.
RJT.
she is holding them in the normal orientation, just fanned out in her palm, so it looks like she is holding them perpendicular to the normal orientation.sagefr0g said:lol i'm probably wrong Sonny. but when i put the pack in my left hand in the same manner she is holding those cards (face down to the palm) that vital information lol appears near the web of my thumb and index finger.
edit: ahhh but i think i get what your saying. that's (in my picture) not a very normal way for the dealer to hold cards and in the other three blog pictures she appears to be holding them in a more normal fashion to where if thats how she's holding them only the pips would show.
zengrifter
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Actually one can get quite good at that level of glance. Comes with practice and confidence (knowing you saw it). zgRJT said:
Oh i quite believe it, have done a little of it and it's my focus at the present, but with that resolution, you'd bet on it ZG?zengrifter said:
If that's the best sight of it you can get - and i mean the clarity of the visual, not the angle - then i doubt you'd make much $$$. I want to know what i'm seeing when i'm betting and you're very right - that comes with practice.
RJT.
SuperTrump
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How was the 'holecarding' table photo featured in this thread actually taken?
Presumably, it was taken discreetly using a covert miniature camera of some sorts? I've heard of some players having hidden camera in their belt buckle which is about the right optimal angle needed to get the best glimpse of the dealer's hole card. This image can be then relayed offsite to a guy in a van with a computer who can use magnification/card recognition software to 'guess' the card and then relay the correct strategy decision back to the player via a transmitter and hidden ear piece.
Although illegal, I am sure that there are still players who use such technology at the tables and are willing to take the risk, given the 10-13% advantage achievable by employing such a technique!
Presumably, it was taken discreetly using a covert miniature camera of some sorts? I've heard of some players having hidden camera in their belt buckle which is about the right optimal angle needed to get the best glimpse of the dealer's hole card. This image can be then relayed offsite to a guy in a van with a computer who can use magnification/card recognition software to 'guess' the card and then relay the correct strategy decision back to the player via a transmitter and hidden ear piece.
Although illegal, I am sure that there are still players who use such technology at the tables and are willing to take the risk, given the 10-13% advantage achievable by employing such a technique!
miechelabaquita
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Hello there
Can you please share with me or explain to me what are the mechanics of this??????
Can you please share with me or explain to me what are the mechanics of this??????
Martin Gayle
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Look into the specific wording of the law as it relates in your jurisdiction. In some jurisdictions the law will say something like, "It is illegal for the casino to allow you to use a computing device".SuperTrump said:
The way I interpret this, if you use the above 'dude in a van' scenario it is actually the casino that is criminally liable unless if they have any indications/investigation that this is going on! You are just breaking a house rule.
Brock Windsor
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Be careful not to misconstrue a jurisdictions Gaming Act or Commission rules with the Criminal Code. The criminal statutes may allow a much more broad interpretation of cheating (such as theft or fraud) and the casino's would definitely persue the matter. In common law jurisdictions where the matter has not been challenged in court, most judges will look to prescedents in other jurisdictions (such as Nevada) and examine those findings. These jurisdictions have not ruled favourably on the use of computers by players though still some convictions have been overturned on constitutional grounds. There are two interviews with respect to the use of computers on Arnold Snyder's site but the jist of it is "Not worth the risk". The one possible exception I can think of is the Ritz team in the U.K. who were vindicated and their winnings returned.Martin Gayle said:
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