House Edge / Player Edge for Early Surrender Game

[aka23]

I believe this game has a player edge of over 0.06%. However, I haven't seen a game with rules like this before, so I am not confident about an exact number. Does anyone one know the player edge or house edge for a game with the following rules?

--6 decks, shuffled after each hand
--Dealer stands on soft 17
--No dealer peek
--Double on any 2 cards
--Double after split
--No resplits
--Full early surrender (against both 10 and Ace)

 

[Sonny]

--No dealer peek

What happens when the dealer gets a BJ? Do you lose all of your splits/doubles (European style), just your original bet (American style) or your original bet plus any busted hands (Aruba style)?

-Sonny-

 

[aka23]

What happens when the dealer gets a BJ? Do you lose all of your splits/doubles (European style), just your original bet (American style) or your original bet plus any busted hands (Aruba style)?

-Sonny-

If you double/split and the dealer gets a BJ, you lose your full bet.

 

[Sonny]

Based on Arnold Snyder's numbers the player advantage is about 0.08%.

-Sonny-

 

[SystemsTrader]

I believe this game has a player edge of over 0.06%. However, I haven't seen a game with rules like this before, so I am not confident about an exact number. Does anyone one know the player edge or house edge for a game with the following rules?

--6 decks, shuffled after each hand
--Dealer stands on soft 17
--No dealer peek
--Double on any 2 cards
--Double after split
--No resplits
--Full early surrender (against both 10 and Ace)

I've come up with a player edge of +.116% almost double what you have aka. When you say no resplits do you mean on aces? Is this a land based or online game?

 

[aka23]

I've come up with a player edge of +.116% almost double what you have aka. When you say no resplits do you mean on aces?

By no resplits, I meant that you can split any pair only once to make a maximum of two hands. I knew it was more than +0.06%, but +0.116% is significantly higher than I'd expect.

Is this a land based or online game?

It's an online game... VueTec standard blackjack.

 

[SystemsTrader]

By no resplits, I meant that you can split any pair only once to make a maximum of two hands. I knew it was more than +0.06%, but +0.116% is significantly higher than I'd expect.

Ok this rule does change things as I calculated for splitting up to 4 hands, I assumed you meant no resplits as in aces. So I now have the same totals as you do of +0.062%

 

[moo321]

HUGE edge for a counter, though.

 

[Sonny]

HUGE edge for a counter, though.

Not if they shuffle after every hand.

-Sonny-

 

[k_c]

CA values

I believe this game has a player edge of over 0.06%. However, I haven't seen a game with rules like this before, so I am not confident about an exact number. Does anyone one know the player edge or house edge for a game with the following rules?

--6 decks, shuffled after each hand
--Dealer stands on soft 17
--No dealer peek
--Double on any 2 cards
--Double after split
--No resplits
--Full early surrender (against both 10 and Ace)

My total dependent combinatorial program gets +.0704% if you can surrender vs 2 through 9 and +.0683% if you can't.

k_c