how to avoid losing streaks

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daniel27

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Hi, after 2 years of counting my numbers are:
win sessions: 187
loss sessions : 102
units up : 4970 (usual spread 1:25)
this numbers show a 64% of winnings sessions (until know very normal)
but sessions with more than $2000 of fluctuation:
win: 22
loss: 18
not so normal
and finally over $4000
win : 2
loss: 9

this for me is not normal , maybe is the heat ( win and run ) maybe is the gambler inside me , not sure but clearly this affect my game
any ideas advice etc are welcome
daniel
 
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NightStalker

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#2
That is always true

Session is irrelevant when it comes to blackjack. Consider everything as one long session..

Reason for small higher winning session:
  • Once you are up a certain amount, you have to quit because of heat.
  • Once you are losing, you can keep playing heat free (mostly).


Just consider net ev instead of session graph.
 
Sonny

Sonny

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#4
With a max bet of 25 units, those swings are going to come big and often. When the swings are big it usually means that you are getting a lot of good counts and getting a lot of money on the table. Whether you win or lose, the fact that you were getting some decent advantages should make you feel a little better. As you noticed, the money should eventually end up on your side of the table.

If the swings really bother you, there are lots of ways to reduce the variance by adjusting your betting and/or playing strategy. It all depends on the casino conditions.

-Sonny-
 
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daniel27

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#5
thanks to u folks, good to "see" u again Flash ,i put this in voodoo section for this: (or to ask this)
option 1.- it is wise to cut some of the loss ? i mean had a max for losing ( maybe $2000 or so for session), or
option 2.- with really good counts sometimes i loose hand after hand over and over , my question is , reducing the bet to min will be a smart thing???
daniel
 
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shinyam

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daniel27 said:
thanks to u folks, good to "see" u again Flash ,i put this in voodoo section for this: (or to ask this)
option 1.- it is wise to cut some of the loss ? i mean had a max for losing ( maybe $2000 or so for session), or
option 2.- with really good counts sometimes i loose hand after hand over and over , my question is , reducing the bet to min will be a smart thing???
daniel
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Setting a limit on how much you lose will only hurt you in the long run, since you will probably lose alll your money during very high counts and betting big. You will not be able to take advantage of these situations.


Reducing your bet after you lose hand after hand is also not going to cut your losses. It's only going to make you win less. Just because you lost five hands in a row doesn't mean that the chances of you winning are less on the next hand. If you have a high count, bet the full amount that you're supposed to, no matter whether you're winning or losing. I know it's very tough, but trust me, it'll work out in the end.
 
aslan

aslan

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shinyam said:
If you have a high count, bet the full amount that you're supposed to, no matter whether you're winning or losing. I know it's very tough, but trust me, it'll work out in the end.
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If one is adequately funded, it is not as tough to do. But if one is underfunded, I can understand the fears. Better to go to a lower min game than to put oneself into this untenable position.
 
FLASH1296

FLASH1296

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#8
daniel27,

You are receiving sound advice. Embrace it. We have all faced the "shoe from hell."

p.s. last week I split 4 ACES against a dealer SIX. Max bets. Got 4 stiffs and lost all 4. Several thousand loss in ¼ minute.

It "Comes with the territory" as we say.

Dropping a few more metaphors here —

"If you can't take the heat … get out of the (casino)."

Advantage Play is "not for the feint of heart"
 
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MAZ

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FLASH1296 said:
daniel27,


p.s. last week I split 4 ACES against a dealer SIX. Max bets. Got 4 stiffs and lost all 4. Several thousand loss in ¼ minute.
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HA HA HA HA HA!!! Hey Flash, you know red chips are worth $5 a piece right?
 
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RJT

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iCountNTrack said:
Okay, i hate to do this but I am afraid MAZ will be sent on a short vacation. Hopefully it will calm him down.
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TBH it doesn't seem like MAZ that needs to calm down. Seems like a little bit of an over-reaction on this one. The post was on topic, didn't use any offensive language or make any derogatory, or abusive remarks. All MAZ did do was call in to question the legitimacy of one posters story based on the history of that poster. If you take away the right to do that then you take away the right to critique information other people post and in a field that is so riddled with falsehoods, inaccuracies, egos and blatant lies, to have any sort of reliable information source you absolutely have to have that.
Many of the serious players round here have serious questions regarding whether or not Flash is the player he claims, it seems to me that that opinion was voiced. If Flash finds this offensive i’m sure he’s a big enough boy to deal with it.
And i hope you understand how difficult it was for me to make this post - there is very little doubt in this that i now own zengrifter an apology. Sick.

RJT.
 
iCountNTrack

iCountNTrack

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RJT said:
TBH it doesn't seem like MAZ that needs to calm down. Seems like a little bit of an over-reaction on this one. The post was on topic, didn't use any offensive language or make any derogatory, or abusive remarks. All MAZ did do was call in to question the legitimacy of one posters story based on the history of that poster. If you take away the right to do that then you take away the right to critique information other people post and in a field that is so riddled with falsehoods, inaccuracies, egos and blatant lies, to have any sort of reliable information source you absolutely have to have that.
Many of the serious players round here have serious questions regarding whether or not Flash is the player he claims, it seems to me that that opinion was voiced. If Flash finds this offensive i’m sure he’s a big enough boy to deal with it.
And i hope you understand how difficult it was for me to make this post - there is very little doubt in this that i now own zengrifter an apology. Sick.

RJT.
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If it were coming from a poster other than MAZ, i would totally agree with you, but MAZ has been known to putting people down and using harsh language and exhibiting this elite/condescending attitude towards other members.

Flash said he lost a thousand dollars while splitting to four hands, he was trying to explain the inevitable evil of playing BJ to the OP: "Even with the best possible strategies, Blackjack remains a gamë with high variance" , which is the subject of this thread.

Sarcastically questioning Flash's stakes level is hardly related to the topic of the discussion and serves no purpose besides an attempt to put down/flame.
 
QFIT

QFIT

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This "joke" has become very old. For years, a small set of posters has ridiculed other players. The "I'm a real player and you're not" posts were used by Stalker and friends hundreds of times to try to "cleanse" the forums of people they don't like. And frankly, most of the posts contain blatant lies about people. There is a forum for people that want to continue in this manner. You can find JStat there.
 
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RJT

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iCountNTrack said:
If it were coming from a poster other than MAZ, i would totally agree with you, but MAZ has been known to putting people down and using harsh language and exhibiting this elite/condescending attitude towards other members.

Flash said he lost a thousand dollars while splitting to four hands, he was trying to explain the inevitable evil of playing BJ to the OP: "Even with the best possible strategies, Blackjack remains a gamë with high variance" , which is the subject of this thread.

Sarcastically questioning Flash's stakes level is hardly related to the topic of the discussion and serves no purpose besides an attempt to put down/flame.
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Absolutely disagree - as much as it may not be a good thing, reputation drastically affects the weighting that new posters give your posts. If everyone only ever says positive things about each other then there is nothing with which to judge who to listen to. There are many posters on this site that i have little to no respect for and nor should anyone else as their posts are generally filled with lies, exaggerations and misconceptions. I'm fortunate that i have a healthy base of knowledge of both play and other experienced players with which to make judgement of who is worth listening to. Others are not so fortunate. If a new poster never sees an established poster's credibility being called into question then the logical assessment is that they are very knowledgable and right. When credibility is questioned it then leaves the reader to make an assessment of who is right.
Oh and a barring for the aforementioned comment is a massive over reaction compared to some of the comments that others - including myself - have got away with in the past leading me to believe that this is more about a general dislike of MAZ's posting style than the offending post.

RJT.
 
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QFIT

QFIT

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If someone disagrees with what someone else says, then state the disagreement. Attack the logic, not the member. Churlish put-downs have no purpose.
 
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RJT

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QFIT said:
This "joke" has become very old. For years, a small set of posters has ridiculed other players. The "I'm a real player and you're not" posts were used by Stalker and friends hundreds of times to try to "cleanse" the forums of people they don't like. And frankly, most of the posts contain blatant lies about people. There is a forum for people that want to continue in this manner. You can find JStat there.
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To compare MAZ's posts here to Stalker's lot is a very poor show QFIT. I'm not the oldest player in the game but i've been around long enough to see the verbally and physically threatening posts that Stalker's group made. I was aware of their lack of concern for the truth when posting about other players and posters and their complete contempt for card counters - or any other players for that matter.
While MAZ frequently has a very sharp tounge and a posting style that doesn't sit well with those with an ego to protect, that hardly constitutes the level of dross shown here;- [see lvhcm]

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=22343&postcount=15
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=23969&postcount=11
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=25448&postcount=22

And to be clear on this, that's just a few choices from this site where he wasn't welcome very long. There are far better elsewhere.
If anyone's got a right to be offended i'd say it's the man you've made the unflattering comparison to, but something tells me he just won't give a sh*t.
The post in question was a clear question of credibility which has value in itself.

RJT.
 
QFIT

QFIT

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RJT, I do not need to see examples of posts made by Stalker. I was and continue to be one of his main victims.

Maz's post laughingly stated that FLASH was a red-chip player with zero evidence. Maz made the same claim about me. (Like so many of Stalker's posts.) Now I cannot state for certain what Flash's stakes are, but I know what mine are and it's a damned lie.

The point is that these lies are told to attempt to marginalize posters --- and even chase them out of the forums. If the poster makes posts with misinformation, attack the posts and it will become clear. But, taking a short-cut and posting false statements about the poster or ridiculing the poster for nothing said is simply cyber-bullying. I, for one, am sick of it.
 
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