i dont believe this

Sonny

Sonny

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I think most casinos do not allow early surrender against an ace and some only allow it against a 10, which increases the house edge a little bit. You should find out exactly what the rules are.

-Sonny-
 
QFIT

QFIT

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Full Early Surrender is available at some casinos in Egypt, Western Africa, Vancouver, and a few casinos in France. I believe it was also available in Moscow. I believe the last two casinos offering ES in the US, in Colorado, have closed. ES10 you can find in France, Panama and a few other places.
 
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callipygian

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QFIT said:
Full Early Surrender is available at some casinos in Egypt, Western Africa, Vancouver, and a few casinos in France.
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I briefly considered playing some blackjack in Cairo when I went to visit, but balked because the casinos looked shady as hell. Have you actually played in Egypt? What was it like?
 
QFIT

QFIT

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callipygian said:
I briefly considered playing some blackjack in Cairo when I went to visit, but balked because the casinos looked shady as hell. Have you actually played in Egypt? What was it like?
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No I haven't. I have users that have played in all the places I mentioned without any reported difficulties.
 
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callipygian

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Sonny said:
This article is from 2003 but it's still pretty interesting;

http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/content/Egyptian Adventure.htm
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Thanks!

A lot of that article was pretty funny, especially about Egyptians trying to "rip off" tourists. It's actually not that bad compared to places in sub-Saharan Africa where the tourist-to-local rate ratio is 10:1 or even 100:1. Once you realize that people really mean no ill will (nor do they take offense to theatrics during negotiation), it's fine, really. Tipping (baksheesh) is ubiquitous, and Egyptians do it to other Egyptians as well.

The part about empty casinos was entirely the reason why I was so unnerved. Walking into a casino where everyone was staring at you just felt really, really weird. That, and having the average Egyptian's yearly salary in my pocket (although over time we realized that criminal thievery in Egypt is just incredibly rare - they just prefer to obtain your cash by making you pay for everything).

If I went back, maybe I'd give blackjack a shot, particularly at Sharm El Sheik, where the hotels are much more Las Vegas Strip-like. The hotels in Cairo were much more Las Vegas downtown-like. Even the "four star" hotel we stayed in was worse than most Motel 6's in the U.S.
 
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marius

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do enyone calculated percentige same rules like in the link mentioned, but u aren't allowed surrender agains ace?The house edge is?
 
Sonny

Sonny

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marius said:
do enyone calculated percentige same rules like in the link mentioned, but u aren't allowed surrender agains ace?The house edge is?
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If early surrender is not available on an ace (only a 10) then the advantage is 0.24% instead of 0.63%. The game you mentioned above probably has a house edge of around 0.16%. If you lose doubles and splits to a dealer BJ then the house edge is closer to 0.27%.

-Sonny-
 
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Mr. T

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Sonny, this guy has a Problem.

Look what he posted before amonst other postings.


okay, manage to stay alive few weeks, enywho wanna bet how much can i survive ?:D
sold something lost 180.
it went like this borrowed 340 lost( did want to loose only max 100, but ....), borrowed 240( lost... also the same situation), borrowed 200, Yeahahhaahaa 900.well its da same **** i borowed.


What you have said is like telling an Alcoholic whether whisky is more portent than vodka or vice versa.

This guy should not be doing any more gambling. The smartest thing you can do here is to blacklist him from this board and Save A Life.
 
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zengrifter

zengrifter

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#13
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Mr. T said:
Sonny, this guy has a Problem.

Look what he posted before amonst other postings.


okay, manage to stay alive few weeks, enywho wanna bet how much can i survive ?:D
sold something lost 180.
it went like this borrowed 340 lost( did want to loose only max 100, but ....), borrowed 240( lost... also the same situation), borrowed 200, Yeahahhaahaa 900.well its da same **** i borowed.


What you have said is like telling an Alcoholic whether whisky is more portent than vodka or vice versa.

This guy should not be doing any more gambling. The smartest thing you can do here is to blacklist him from this board and Save A Life.
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Now that he knows what the housEdge, how low it is, he can start borrowing more and losing less. zg
 
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marius

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Sonny said:
If early surrender is not available on an ace (only a 10) then the advantage is 0.24% instead of 0.63%. The game you mentioned above probably has a house edge of around 0.16%. If you lose doubles and splits to a dealer BJ then the house edge is closer to 0.27%.

-Sonny-
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i dont do doubles and split when the probability is that dealer will get bj, as the basic strategy sais.

well in the bs title in this page is sad, when u can't surrender it's 0.55 house edge, and when u can surrender(first two cards even againt's ace) it's 0.08 advantage.
unfortunely there is no calculation when u can't surrender only agains ace, it should be somewhere between 0.54 and -0.08.

there are few casinos in my city.
1 casino dont allow surrender againt's ace, other allows.
the one witch allows to surrender againt's ace, has the rule wich u cannot surrender after split, but if i remember good, u don't need that when u play perfect bs.i remember gud ?:)

sometimes i doubt the basic strategy suggestion like take on hard 16 when dealers 10 or ace.

p.s sorry for the weak writing style.
 
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marius

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#15
Mr. T said:
Sonny, this guy has a Problem.

Look what he posted before amonst other postings.


okay, manage to stay alive few weeks, enywho wanna bet how much can i survive ?:D
sold something lost 180.
it went like this borrowed 340 lost( did want to loose only max 100, but ....), borrowed 240( lost... also the same situation), borrowed 200, Yeahahhaahaa 900.well its da same **** i borowed.


What you have said is like telling an Alcoholic whether whisky is more portent than vodka or vice versa.

This guy should not be doing any more gambling. The smartest thing you can do here is to blacklist him from this board and Save A Life.
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yes, but when the house edge is -0.08 i can play.manage to win yesturday and today 1,4.

the problem i think is solved when i got my bank card allow to take only 100lt a day.Also there is verry verry big big... differences between the mood when i go out from casino
 
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techster

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early surrender in ok

There is a small Indian casino in Miami, OK, that offers early surrender, but they hit S17. They are also one of the few Indian casinos that offer ante-free BJ for much of the week.
 
sagefr0g

sagefr0g

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techster said:
There is a small Indian casino in Miami, OK, that offers early surrender, but they hit S17. They are also one of the few Indian casinos that offer ante-free BJ for much of the week.
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in Miami? Miami Florida? really?
 
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