intented "mistake"

[Shell]

Last weekend, I was playing bj at a eastern casino. 6D
DOA, DAS, S17... min $5..
The casino is near where I'm living. I did pretty good last month, the first
month of my card-counting career. I took around $450 from casino by 40 hours
weekend overtime work. Of course I spent much more time to training myself.

As usual, I sit at 3 base of the table. It was the first round of the shoe, I put $5 and got total 15. Dealer's face card was 10. Probably because the dealer was a new hands, the pit boss kept her eyes on our table a lot. While it's my turn to make decision of hit or stand, she was just standing at my left
side( I wish that's not because of my winning on past month). I pretented to hesitate couple of seconds then waved my hand over the table to stand. The dealer's hole card was a 4, and she digged another 4 from the shoes ( which was
mine if pit boss wasn't there). The pit boss looked at me and her face said:
why did you stand, youngman!

Behind my 'loser' face, I wish she thought "chicken".

 

[learning to count]

You should take the card. I learned the hard way that using simulated ploppy mistakes for cover is a waste of time and money. Your playing in the red anyway the casino is more worried about a player who is kicking their behinds in black. Heat comes when your betting big and winning; not at a red chip table. If they thought you were a counter you would have recieved heat in the past and they probably would have stopped you from playing in the first place. Play at your best and count your ass off! The only play I make for cover is during a nuetral deck I may put out a different bet from time to time to get he pit critters to be used to bet changes. ON a ney negative count I bet the minimum or leave. LTC PS I am not an expert this is my oppinion and it and a buck can get you a ride on the bus.

 

[The Mayor]

The question of good "bad plays" is an old one. Here is a short list of some good "bad plays"... why, because they are how ploppies play, and they don't cost too much. Standing on 15 vs. T is VERY expensive.

Stand on A-7 vs. 9, T, or A
Stand on 12 vs. 3
Don't double A-7 against anything.
Don't double 8 vs. 5/6 in single deck.
Stand on A-8 vs. 5,6 in single deck.
Don't split 9's against an 8.

Just a few...

The problem with standing on T-5 vs. T is that it is a play advantage players often make. It looks like an advantage play, not a stupid ploppy play. Now, standing on A-3 vs. T, that would be a ploppy play -- next time, if you want to spend a lot of EV on a play, at least get your money's worth.

--Mayor

 

[zengrifter]

Grossjean's "18s" and other dumb-ones

Beyond Counting's JGrossjean recommends misplaying certain of the '18s', most of which stand out when played correctly - A7v9-10-A, 99v8-9, I also like splitting 1010v2,7,8 (small bet) which establishes me as a 10splitter - another, 22v8-9, looks worse than it is.

The key of course is to use 'dumb-plays' sparingly - on a recent visit to a small-stakes 1D casino I stood on A6v7 - in yet another (while appearing moderately drunk) I doubled for less 16v7 (I only put up a dollar extra, for the dealer!). zg

 

[Abraham de Moivre]

I totally disagree

In the reference post -- It wasn't the play -- It was the 'ACT'.
You could have gotten the same effect without even playing -- just 'ACT'.

Read my 'Enemy' posts.
Notice the Pit Boss (or Eye in the Sky) was not concerned with bet spreads, bet levels, or this or that.
Our subject in the posts was about to encounter heat. Do you think hitting 12 vs 2 when he should
of stood would make any difference? The Pit wouldn't have even known.

Do you think that if you look like a counter, act like a counter, bet like a counter --
The Pit is going to be fooled because, "Hey, he stood on soft 18?"

Do you think the pit even notices or cares about any of the following?
Sometimes only bet 3 chips when the count indicates a bet of 4 chips.
Sometimes bet 2 chips at the start of the shoe, instead of 1 chip.
Don't split 9s vs 8 (and any other of 100 other basic strategy violations) --
***
I guess you are expecting the pit to pick up on the fact that these are
incorrect moves, and not notice the 100 other basic strategy violations
that are the right move because of the count?
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I have never overheard this conversation over the phone between the Pit and the Eye in the Sky:
"Yeah, he is up about $7500 right now"
"No, nothing funny going on, appears to be just a straight counter"
"Nope, no indication of a shuffle track, he hardly ever cuts the cards."
"No, seems to be alone, don't think he is spotting."
"Yeah, he is getting down a really strong 10:1 spread, mostly green."
"What, Hell No! I'm not going to back him off! He just stood on soft 18 vs 9!"

 

[The Mayor]

Re: I totally disagree

The point is to do just enough early on to not get watched. Then the conversation doesn't even take place.

--Mayor

 

[Abraham de Moivre]

I agree

but not hitting soft 18 vs 10 isn't going to cut it.

he looks like a counter.
he walks like a counter.
he acts like a counter.
he talks like a counter.
he bets like a counter.
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Opps! He didn't hit soft 18 vs 10. Must not be a counter.

The above equation ain't gonna happen.

By the same token,
if you look like a sucker,
walk, talk, and act like a sucker --

you can hit soft 18 vs 10 all day long,

and the casino will probably give you a comp
to keep the lucky sucker around.

 

[zengrifter]

Agreed