# is there really hot table or cold table

#### bjplayer123

##### Active Member
Hi pros

Do you pick tables, mathmatically there is no cold or hot difference for the table if the counting number is around 0 because its random. But i heard some good players only jump in a table when table is hot even the counting number is 0

#### Morphy

##### Well-Known Member
I am assuming you are talking about "Wonging" ? I would think if MSE is allowed a 0 RC with 2 decks left to play could get hot.

#### Meistro

##### Well-Known Member
When I pick tables I am mostly looking for the absence of casino patrons. A fresh shoe or young female dealer are also nice but of secondary importance. Table minimum or rules could also be a factor. When there are multiple pits you may want to play in one you have not been playing in. But most important is heads up play.

#### xengrifter

##### Banned
bjplayer123 said:
Hi pros

Do you pick tables, mathmatically there is no cold or hot difference for the table if the counting number is around 0 because its random. But i heard some good players only jump in a table when table is hot even the counting number is 0
I use a micro-sized dowsing rod -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing

#### Wizards Jabbering monkey

##### Active Member
Do they battery operated one's, ha ha ha

#### TS Blackjack

##### New Member
Yes there is. A hot one table is one I'm winning at and a cold one...You get the idea...

#### So_what_MD

##### Active Member
bjplayer123 said:
Hi pros

Do you pick tables, mathmatically there is no cold or hot difference for the table if the counting number is around 0 because its random. But i heard some good players only jump in a table when table is hot even the counting number is 0
Hi BJPlayer, first off I am not a pro. I have done some gaming research. I count cards because it is satisfying to beat the house. Second off, I don't have any science to back up what I am about to say.
Science explains less than 10% of what is going on around us. Do you want to maximize just that 10% and ignore the other 90%?
I have played jack for many years and started recording in 1997. I have been winning every year except for last year. The ability of realizing, finding and using INTUITION is just as important as counting ... To me. The count, to me, is just an indicator. If the combination in the shoe makes the table not to pay, no matter what count I get, I just can't win those tables. Say you have played for half an hour, you notice the red shoe is Consistently more forgiving than the blue shoe. Players are not getting cards with the blue deck and house keep making 5 cards 21 on stiffs with count thru the roof. Oppose to the red shoe just keep paying. There is a reason behind it. I am just not smart enough to know why. Earlier in my career I would play and rely on my math cos superstition is BAD. After many years of heart breaking nights I had to admit to myself, there is a force out there making these things happen that I am not smart enough to analyze. In the last 10 years, I only play tables that are HOT. My TAKE is far better than my EV. PROBLEM being a winning table usually is busy and I have to play behind. They all know me. They would double down A8 but rarely would they split 10's. I have allowed my intuitional skill to a point that I can read whether I can beat this table or not. This is just one person's 10 year sampling. Hardly enough to attach any kind of confidence or co-relationship to it. Thanx and good luck.

#### So_what_MD

##### Active Member
LC Larry said:
From a scientific perspective I couldn't agree with you more. I developed my own winning system by considering all variables, scientific or otherwise. I used to keep this to myself especially from my die-hard counter (scientific) buddies. We have to agree there are so much happening around us that nobody can explain. I came across with a GP's (Deepak Chopra) lecture. I remember he had heavy Indian accent but spoke with powerful Oxford dictions. I checked out some of his publications, quantum healing, ageless body timeless mind, how to know God, etc. It was voodoo ... But I liked it. I dared not share my voodoo beliefs with any well educated folks ... Until I read Zengrifter's interview (2004). I dunno about you, I do not know too many BJ giants as powerful as him, with exception of Johnny Chang. He actually "semi" endorsed my voodoo talk. In that 2004 interview he talked about stuff that I have been allowing myself to explore (quantum world, intuition, etc) despite the fact it is highly non-scientific. I expect heavy scrutiny from the scientific blackjack community. I wish I had proof to justify my argument.

#### Wizards Jabbering monkey

##### Active Member
Your a lucky guy, the wizard always use to say luck is better than skill, ha ha ha Good luck to ya 2

#### xengrifter

##### Banned
So_what_MD said:
Science explains less than 10% of what is going on around us.
Less than 1% even.
So_what_MD said:
started recording in 1997. I have been winning every year except for last year
Statistically insignificant.
So_what_MD said:
The ability of realizing, finding and using INTUITION is just as important as counting...I have allowed my intuitional skill to a point that I can read whether I can beat this table or not
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#### LC Larry

##### Well-Known Member
The correct quote is:

"No..., I am your father. "

#### So_what_MD

##### Active Member
xengrifter said:
Less than 1% even.

Statistically insignificant.

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I am learning how to navigate on here, not a very smart man hehe
I think I am at a diminishing return with the productivity of that 1%. If I can just improve that 99% by 1% I will be 99% better off. Cost and benefit? No brainer. Takes courage to be on the outside ...
I don't think I will live long enough for stats to kick in ... Unfortunately.
Grift, u just let the genie out of my bottle, tired of them calling me names, u can't shut me up now ... Picture this, we are sharing the same space with beings outside of our dimensions. Every time he/she/it comes into the space it runs into a wall, it gets annoyed and possibly takes away the positive energy. A fung Shui master can explain better. Picture this, the almighty God, creator, Mohammad or Buddha all exist ... In our heart ... As long as we allow it to, Deepak Chopra or Tony Robbins can explain better. Last night, I found this table to be absolutely impossible, neutrals running together, stiffs clumping, house bust about 1 in 10, 2 players with no chips in front of them with a face longer than a horse. BAD NEWS. Unfortunately before I walked away a count came. How could I not play? I entertained it with 1 unit 3 squares. Count kept going up = we are playing stiffs hence hard to win. After about 7,8 rounds, I risked the volume of about 50 units I made 2. It sure made me work for the damn 2 units, eg, RC45 3decks left, 14 vs 10; right on the line (AO2). I looked at it many times, didn't know what to do. Science has to step aside now, I said time-out ... Intuition god, where are you??? An idea came, I inspected cards from the way they came out. 17 to 21 or a bust resolve that round. Got to my 14 hand I had 13. If 18.1 is indeed the average hand, next card should be 5.1. I said u take that 5 and I will take my chances. Happened so fast, 5 and a face --- cut the chips!!!! Shssssh, my scientific buddies will crucify me. But hey, intuition god prevailed again.

#### Wizards Jabbering monkey

##### Active Member
When you can harness your powers with some form of reliability, let me know we'll go make a few million for fun. Otherwise got to stick with the math.

#### So_what_MD

##### Active Member
Publishing is not all that glamorous. That's why I never pay attention to these "get rich" books. If it is that good they wouldn't be telling us for 5-digit advance payment. However, I am totally interested in demonstrating how i do it. I will likely be right about 70% of the time.

This is like clock work for me. Visit a bit, make it look like I really care about what a dealer just did. Pick my tables. Do my thing. Win 5 out of 7 sessions. I leave when I am about 2-5% BR up. I lose 2 out of 7, usually lose more than win, hence 2 net win (4-10% gain) per 7 session. About 20 hours per week. I play 0.8 Kelly. I see 1% about 8-10 times an hour, math tells me 1200 hours to double BR, but I always do it between 6-9 months (usually a couple big bleeding sessions that drag my average down). They let me play 15,000-50,000BR. 0.8 Kelly. Anything over that heat starts. 400-600 hours sooner than expected. I have respect for every single shoe. I do not drink until I have earned my dough. I talk to the shoe as though there is a Blackjack God in it. After a win I look at the card and say "THANK YOU". A straight ahead math game would be easier.

children see/hear/feel more than we do. Because they have not been "brain washed" to ignore their instinct or "INTUITION". I am greedy. I wanna keep my adult knowledge but return to the mind of a child. I am hopeless hehe.

#### xengrifter

##### Banned
So_what_MD said:
I talk to the shoe as though there is a Blackjack God in it. After a win I look at the card and say "THANK YOU". A straight ahead math game would be easier.... children see/hear/feel more than we do. Because they have not been "brain washed" to ignore their instinct or "INTUITION". I am greedy. I wanna keep my adult knowledge but return to the mind of a child.

#### Wizards Jabbering monkey

##### Active Member
Put 10,000 hours in at least ,see how she goes

#### xengrifter

##### Banned
Wizards Jabbering monkey said:
Put 10,000 hours in at least ,see how she goes