Just thought you'd all like to know:

[RikaKazak]

Do you think this movie is going to hurt playing conditions across the country as more people inevitably are going to learn about card counting?

I think the opposite.

Just like rounders brought in a whole new breed of poker players....this might bring in a whole bunch of wanna be counters and make it easier to blend in/more tables running so easier to hide and wong in/out.

 

[RikaKazak]

He likes the 6:5 games because he is a hole carder. He is hoping that 6:5 catches on so that there will be more pitch games available. The problem is that the 6:5 menace has already spread to DD and shoe games, so the casinos are not likely to bring back the pitch games. They are more likely to just replace the signs on all of their shoe games.

The problem with Negrocan's plan is that it is based on intelligent, rational thought. Casinos don't think that way.

-Sonny-

what's a "hole carder"?

 

[Sonny]

what's a "hole carder"?

They're sometimes called front loaders or peek freaks. They find ways to catch a glimpse of the dealer's hole card in pitch games. Knowing what the dealer's hole card is can give you a pretty hefty advantage.

-Sonny-

 

[weavin42]

I'm just a little confused on some terminology, a pitch game is where the cards are dealt face down, usually DD or SD. A shoe games is face up and dealt from a card holder. What about a game where it's face down but still dealt from a shoe. Is pitch more accurately defined as a hand-held game?

With that asked, can you hole-card in shoe games or just hand-held? Or does it require a really sloppy dealer to hole-card in shoe games?

All we have where I play is games dealt from a shoe.

Josh

 

[Mimosine]

I'm just a little confused on some terminology, a pitch game is where the cards are dealt face down, usually DD or SD. A shoe games is face up and dealt from a card holder. What about a game where it's face down but still dealt from a shoe. Is pitch more accurately defined as a hand-held game?

With that asked, can you hole-card in shoe games or just hand-held? Or does it require a really sloppy dealer to hole-card in shoe games?

All we have where I play is games dealt from a shoe.

Josh

pitch is a handheld SD or DD game where player cards are dealt face down.

in a few casinos a DD game will be dealt from a shoe, face up. i wouldn't call this a pitch game. for me, pitch elicits the way the dealer deals. in a pitch game, the cards are usually thrown at you, face down from a dealer holding the deck in his hands, close to his body.

6D games are dealt from a shoe and dealt face up.

you can hole card in any game, it is all dependent on how sloppy the dealer is.

 

[EasyRhino]

I believe you generally have a better chance of catching a flashing dealer in a pitch game, though.