OK, I just ran a 100,000,000 hand simulation. The rules were 2 Deck Stand soft 17. DAS 70% Pen. My question is this, in KO the key count is +2. You should have an edge at +2. But my simulation shows that KO is only profitable when the count is +4 or more. Anything below +4 loses. Can anyone explain this??? Thanks..
KO Question Please Help!!
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zengrifter
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With HiLo you would have a +EV @ +2 TC in 2D s17, but with KO 2D the +EV is not reached until +4 RC, I think. zgrmi227 said:
For KO, if you do not alter any of the numbers from the book, +4 is the pivot point, not the key count.zengrifter said:
rmi227 said:
If you use the IRC of -4 suggested in the book, the key count would be +1, so any RC of +1 or higher should yield a positive expectation.
Check to make sure you are using an IRC of -4.
I ran my own sim using the KO software and had similar results. The only counts getting positive expectations were at +4 and higher. The key count for 2-decks using a -4 IRC is +1 so you should definitely see positive results at +1, +2, and +3 as well. I don't know what the problem is...rmi227 said:
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zengrifter
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Maybe you should move the 2D IRC to -6? gScottH said:
I don't know why you would. When you set it for 2 decks it automatically puts in -4 for the IRC and tells you that the key count is 1. I tried changing the IRC, and it still says key count is 1, it didn't change that.zengrifter said:
I tried changing the IRC to -15 just to see what would happen and it still showed negative earnings until a count of 4 and higher. You can change the IRC all you want and it doesn't change. It probably doesn't even take into account what you type into for the IRC. I don't know what the deal is.
zengrifter
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Ok, well until we gt the answer to the sim-mystery, you may have already answered the question with your next-to-last sentence. zgScottH said:
Maybe the sim always uses 0 as the IRC, then making the key count +5. So at all RC of +5 and higher would yield positive results. Although that wouldn't explain how there is positive expectation at +4... it's a mystery.zengrifter said:
Either there is something wrong with the sim, or we are doing something wrong. KO works just fine, it's a software problem or user problem. I don't know which...rmi227 said:
