KO strategy
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EasyRhino
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I recommend the actual KO book. Do you have it?
Your max bet should be dependent on your total bankroll. For lack of fancier evaluation, try setting the max bet as 1% of your total, and make your minimum bet as small as possible.
A simplified strategy is here:
http://www.qfit.com/REKOStrategy.htm
Your max bet should be dependent on your total bankroll. For lack of fancier evaluation, try setting the max bet as 1% of your total, and make your minimum bet as small as possible.
A simplified strategy is here:
http://www.qfit.com/REKOStrategy.htm
ko question
If I spread 1-4 in a six deck game with surrender only using insurance and sixteen against a ten as index plays will I be playing with a "positive" expectation?
Is the "pivot point" in ko always one above the insurance count?........no matter how mny decks being used?
If I spread 1-4 in a six deck game with surrender only using insurance and sixteen against a ten as index plays will I be playing with a "positive" expectation?
Is the "pivot point" in ko always one above the insurance count?........no matter how mny decks being used?
ChefJJ
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I don't know the math on that one exactly, but I would imagine you are close to playing to a "push" in the long run with that spread and knowing few of the indices. If anything, use all of the indices for 6D in the KO book--think of it this way, the rest of those indices are basically double 10 & 11 vs. anything, double 9 vs. 2-7, double 8 vs. 5 & 6, stand on 12 vs. 2 & 3....you get my drift. They are easy to remember.d-down21 said:
The way that the KO system puts it, the insurance count is one less than the PP, which is +4 regardless of how many decks you use...if you use the counting scale in the book.
good luck
Mimosine
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it depends on the rules of the game. if it is H17, then most likely not.d-down21 said:
if you are using all 16 or so index plays, PLUS the surrender index plays, then you will be above break even, but only barely. if you wong out of bad counts, and backcount into a few good shoes then you will be +EV for sure.
for an LS H17 game there are about ~6 times you surrender in neutral counts (using BS) with an additional ~4 times you surrender in + counts.
for a S17 game, there are about 4 times you surrender in neutral counts (using BS).
if you are in a H17 game and are not using surrender properly even a 1-6 spread won't get you break even.
Stupid me ...........leaving out that critical bit of info .........it will be a S17 game.Mimosine said:
Gonna be my 2nd attempt at counting I can now count down a deck in 40 seconds ........From what I have read that still might not be fast enough..........Oh well wish me luck.
Brock Windsor
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I would say 40seconds is NOT fast enough unless you have a painfully slow dealer. You are far too error prone. Take a pack of cards everywhere with you and when you watch TV or use the bathroom count down the deck. Once you are under 30seconds you should be good for casinos. You will also have to increase your spread and wong out a lot to see real results over the long term.d-down21 said:
BW
golfnut101
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KO book
As someone previously suggested, get the book. Cheap investment for sure. As well, need to improve on the 40 seconds. Also ensure counts are accurate(practice, practice, practice) and DO NOT OVERBET YOUR BANKROLL. Stay with it though, its worth it. Lots of great advice here on this site. Good luck !
As someone previously suggested, get the book. Cheap investment for sure. As well, need to improve on the 40 seconds. Also ensure counts are accurate(practice, practice, practice) and DO NOT OVERBET YOUR BANKROLL. Stay with it though, its worth it. Lots of great advice here on this site. Good luck !
Mimosine
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d-down21 said:
if you can count down 1 deck ten times in a row, averaging 40 seconds, with absolutely ZERO mistakes, then you will be fine.
if you mumble around, miscount, have to stop and recount, end up off by 1 or 2 at the end of a deck then you are not ready to count live, unless your dealer is brand new or 80 years old.
try to find an open spot at 3rd base, with a slow dealer, and don't raise bets unless you are 98% confident that you have been able to keep an accurate count.
ChefJJ
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Be able to count down a deck quickly is good, but you need to take it a bit further with your practice. Deal out to several hands and with a dealer having a hole card like at the casino. Figure out HOW you will count as a game is dealt--that's where practice becomes useful.Brock Windsor said:
good luck
Tales From The Front
Despite the fact that I wasn't able to keep a 100% accurate count still had my 3rd consecutive winning session using my silly little progression.[Why am I even bothering with this counting stuff
.......lol.
Probably won at least 50% of my hands .....playing in what I'm pretty sure were mostly non advantageous counts.................Didn't get one initial 15 or 16 in an hour and a half of play...........Was up $400 ended up walking away a $200 winner.
Yes you are right 40 secs is still not quite fast enough...............Still need to shave about 10 - 15 secs. off my time...................However I did find it easier than my first time out of the box..............The key I think is to recognize the value of pairs of cards quicker.Brock Windsor said:
Despite the fact that I wasn't able to keep a 100% accurate count still had my 3rd consecutive winning session using my silly little progression.[Why am I even bothering with this counting stuff
.......lol.Probably won at least 50% of my hands .....playing in what I'm pretty sure were mostly non advantageous counts.................Didn't get one initial 15 or 16 in an hour and a half of play...........Was up $400 ended up walking away a $200 winner.